Mustangs on Star Trek Enterprise

Scott Rose · **Posted:** Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:08 pm

I'm sitting here watching Star Trek Enterprise Season premiere and a shuttle pod is decending over San Francisco and is intercepted by P-51's, all CGI of course. The helmsman recognizes them (someone is always a history buff on Star Trek) His comment was

"Those are Mustangs, I've seen them at airshows."

Its nice to think that Mustangs could be flying at airshows 200 years from now...

Jeffrey · **Joined:** Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:35 pm **Posts:** 253

so that is the one where it is the first enterprise? Scott Bakula as the captain?

I seem to remember there was a scene or two in the original series of star trek where they beamed a pilot from his aircraft as it was disintegrating due to their tractor beam but can't remember the aircraft type.

Scott Rose · **Posted:** Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:29 pm

Col. Rohr wrote:

Jeffrey wrote:

so that is the one where it is the first enterprise? Scott Bakula as the captain?

I seem to remember there was a scene or two in the original series of star trek where they beamed a pilot from his aircraft as it was disintegrating due to their tractor beam but can't remember the aircraft type.

The plane was a F-86H.

Cheers RER

Are you sure Rob, I could have sworn it was an F-104 Starfighter.

Warhawk · **Posted:** Fri Oct 08, 2004 10:02 pm

Scott WRG Editor wrote:

I'm sitting here watching Star Trek Enterprise Season premiere and a shuttle pod is decending over San Francisco and is intercepted by P-51's, all CGI of course. The helmsman recognizes them (someone is always a history buff on Star Trek) His comment was

"Those are Mustangs, I've seen them at airshows."

Its nice to think that Mustangs could be flying at airshows 200 years from now...

I came in about 15 minutes late so I missed that bit. However I could mention the nice, open cab half ton Dodge and the Kubelwagen in the episode, not to metion the CG Jagdpanther on the White House lawn. Nice picture, but it's as useless as t*ts on a boar hog to have a lone SPG parked out front. However if I did that Scott you would have to move this thread to the O.T. board so Ill just stay quiet. :wink:

dj51d · **Posted:** Fri Oct 08, 2004 10:43 pm

Col. Rohr wrote:

Two different aircraft in this show the first is the 86 and then the 104.

I'll have to watch for the F-86 next time that one is on, I remember the F-104, but it's been a few years since I've seen that one. For referene, the episode is called "Tomorrow is Yesterday"(no I didn't know that off the top of my head, I had to look it up).

Don Martin · **Posted:** Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:27 pm

As I remember, there was an episode of The Twilight Zone that featured a fighter jet(F-100?) also. And one of my favorite strange scenes is in the movie The Absentminded Professor, when a flight of F-102s is scrambled to intercept the flying Model T.

Tulio · **Joined:** Mon May 03, 2004 1:05 am **Posts:** 3236

MEMO to myself:

Take specific notice, that those were MUSTANGS 200 years in the future . . . nothing radial, thank you very much. : )

Saludos!!!

Tulio

Warhawk · **Posted:** Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:47 am

Don Martin wrote:

As I remember, there was an episode of The Twilight Zone that featured a fighter jet(F-100?) also. And one of my favorite strange scenes is in the movie The Absentminded Professor, when a flight of F-102s is scrambled to intercept the flying Model T.

I love the Twilight Zone. One of my favorites is the episode where the World War 1 fighter pilot lands at a U.S. Air Force base in the late fifties.

Scott Rose · **Posted:** Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:20 am

Warhawk wrote:

Don Martin wrote:

As I remember, there was an episode of The Twilight Zone that featured a fighter jet(F-100?) also. And one of my favorite strange scenes is in the movie The Absentminded Professor, when a flight of F-102s is scrambled to intercept the flying Model T.

I love the Twilight Zone. One of my favorites is the episode where the World War 1 fighter pilot lands at a U.S. Air Force base in the late fifties.

I read a short story once where a nuke equipped interceptor went back in time to WWI. The pilot figured he would be able to clear the skies. His first mission he launched a nuke and it failed to lock up a target so self destructed. He tried three more times and failed each time. Out of missiles and his engines wrecked by the low grade kerosene he was using he punched out, returned to base and climbed in a spad, and roared off to battle. This story was written in the 50s.

JDK · **Posted:** Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:42 am

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Take specific notice, that those were MUSTANGS 200 years in the future . . . nothing radial, thank you very much. : )

Hmmm. I reckon there'll be a B-17 or two there as well. D model?

Maybe. Who knows, apart from the general stuff, y'know, Mustangs, there might be some more interesting a/c too.

Let's admit that the great world public & the film makers will stick with what they know. :roll:

Cheers

Jeffrey · **Joined:** Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:35 pm **Posts:** 253

Scott WRG Editor wrote:

I read a short story once where a nuke equipped interceptor went back in time to WWI. The pilot figured he would be able to clear the skies. His first mission he launched a nuke and it failed to lock up a target so self destructed. He tried three more times and failed each time. Out of missiles and his engines wrecked by the low grade kerosene he was using he punched out, returned to base and climbed in a spad, and roared off to battle. This story was written in the 50s.

I can't remember the name of the movie but a nuclear carrier goes back to december 6th 1942. I always have wondered why they bothered actually shooting the zero down and if a flyby at over the mach would not have had a similar result.

I got to admit the way that only one of the zeros wobbled it's wings as if surprised when the F14's did do a flypast made me wonder if there would have beeen such a calm and collected pilot out there to have sort of accepted the appearance of such different aircraft so suddenly from nowhere.

must borrow that movie again if I ever see it on the shelves again. I can't remember if they used guns of missiles to down the zeros.

Jeffrey · **Joined:** Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:35 pm **Posts:** 253

Col. Rohr wrote:

Jeffrey wrote:

Scott WRG Editor wrote:

Jeffery,

The movie is The Final Countdown, I own the Limited Edition Version and one of the disk has all of the f-14 Tora Tora stuff that never made it on to the Movie.

If you watch the movie you will see that the Jolly Rogers almost lost two F-14s during the Dog-Fight shot.

Cheers RER

how I would dearly love to see that extra stuff.

you have me curious too as to how they nearly lost the F14's. any hints would be greatly appreciated.

TimAPNY · **Posted:** Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:17 am

F-14A's have a really bad habit of crashing. Basically they fall out of the sky every so often. But what do you want from 30-year-old airframes that have had the snot beat out of them. I guess they were only 10-15 years old at filming.

Brett · **Posted:** Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:11 am

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you have me curious too as to how they nearly lost the F14's. any hints would be greatly appreciated

Well, they were trying to win a fight against aircraft with RADIAL engines :lol:

Cheers,

Brett

Scott Rose · **Posted:** Fri Oct 15, 2004 7:06 pm

Just saw the preview for Part II of the season premeire of Enterprise. The Enterprise is being attacked by Ju 87G-1 Stukas.... this should be interesting

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