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Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:09 pm
I've seen RC planes bigger than that.
Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:29 pm
Know what you mean.
Not only in size, but tell you what, some of those R/C guys are
serious about their hobby! Ever seen one of those 5-cylinder "radials" on a model? Geezus, sounds just like the real flippin' thing (well, it
is a radial engine!) . . . and the complete model/radios/engine package costs, well, just about what you could get that WAR Fw 190 for!
Wade
Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:53 pm
Yes, we are serious...or is that crazy
Imagine putting $10,000 into a R/C model aircraft and then having a problem and crashing that baby. $10K gone in an instant.

BUT you've got to do it again so you build another one
There are some really beautiful R/C stuff I've seen, but the Jets REALLY get expensive. The turbines are around $2500 and up, and that's JUST for the engine. Unfortunately, since they are real jet engines using real jet fuel, there isn't much left if one crashes.
Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:28 pm
That little plane is great looking. I think one problem is some of these have a pretty high landing speed, and may not handle that well. I know a student pilot in Steamboat Springs had one, a Corsair, and I believe he did fly it, but I don't think it was easy.
Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:08 pm
Great picture...and a beautiful model. The only thing I noticed is the pilot looks a little out of scale. I'd be proud..thanks for posting Tom
Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:12 pm
I have worked on and taxied a WAR FW-190 and I could barely get the canopy closed and there is no way I could close it if I had a headset on. I am not that tall, 5 10, if you were alot shorter than me, would be a comfortable plane
Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:24 pm
"Hello" I guess I missed the WHOLE thing...that's a real pilot under the canopy?..the IS serious scale building....
Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:50 pm
Bill Greenwood wrote:That little plane is great looking. I think one problem is some of these have a pretty high landing speed, and may not handle that well. I know a student pilot in Steamboat Springs had one, a Corsair, and I believe he did fly it, but I don't think it was easy.
According to the specifications, the stall should be 55 MPH.
http://www.warbuddies.homestead.com/specs.html
Apparently the Corsair is more challenging than the other models to fly:
http://www.warbuddies.homestead.com/Flightdata.html
These were originally designed to fly on VW engines but the performance was such they switched to the O-200. Now many are flying with the O-235 and at higher weights. This probably explains the higher stall speeds (65 MPH in the Corsair flight notes).
http://www.warbuddies.homestead.com/
Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:34 pm
I am glad I did not volunteer to fly the replica Corsair, and did'nt encourage the student pilot to do more with it. Also it was at a 7000 foot altitude. I'm pretty sure it did not have the VW engine. A 65 mph stall speed, Corsair is as fast as the Spitfire, and look at how small the tailwheel is. Do they have flaps, can't tell from the photo? They sure are neat looking. Ross Grady built 2, can't be sure they were WAR. One was a P-51 and one a P-47 or FW 190. He said one landed well and one was a handfull.
Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:54 pm
Bill Greenwood wrote:Ross Grady built 2, can't be sure they were WAR. One was a P-51 and one a P-47 or FW 190. He said one landed well and one was a handfull.
I think he built a 2/3 scale Ranger powered P-51 replica - a lot bigger than these.
http://members.shaw.ca/kfalconar/fa/mustang.htm
Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:20 pm
When, oh when will someone take the M-14P Russian radial engine and build a 70% scale Corsair around it? The F4U has
plenty of spare cockpit space to provide for a true-to-scale scale appearance at that scale level. I figure the result wouldn't be any worse than a real Spitfire's cockpit.
As for Fw-190's, there is one scratch-built Fw-190 replica in Australia (all metal) that is 70% scale I believe, and appears to be much more true-to-scale than the WAR replica. Too bad there's only one, and no plans or kits to build more of them.

This is one of the only photos I've seen of it...
Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:35 pm
...one fine day. I had just walked outside to empty a trash can, and was walking back in, and heard a crash that sounded a lot like a mortar round from an earlier experience. Needless to say, I hit the ground nearly the second after I heard it. I saw some smoke in the hangar, and went in to grab a fire extinguisher. Lying there were the remains of a large RC model plane which had flown out of line of site, and ran into the end wall of the hangar. It crashed into the newly upholstered seats of an airplane in the hangar at the time. Totalled, only somebody as dumb as Mike Rawson would try to put it back together.
So the next day, the phone rings, and the insurance company is on the line. Not ours. The RC Modeler's insurance company. It seems that they actually carry liability, hull, etc, and they were calling us to find our claim specifics. Least amount of hassle I've ever had with an insurance company. The check was there within two weeks of the call.
Good to see that our insurance companies are actively seeking newer and braver markets? Toy airplanes? Yeah, I'm sure that impacts my premiums somewhere...
Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:03 pm
Rob
there are several Jurka plans built 190's flying, and some projects that are using the R1820/R1830 .. now thats a real toy .. performance is quite good...
and if you go to
www.corsair82.com you will see a guy finishing a corsair with a 985.. again that should be a good one and better than the m14.. with the extra 100+ HP
Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:02 pm
Forgotten Field wrote:Good to see that our insurance companies are actively seeking newer and braver markets? Toy airplanes? Yeah, I'm sure that impacts my premiums somewhere...
The Academy of Model Aeronautics (AMA) has had free insurance for their members for many years. I'm sure many members join just for the insurance!
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