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mike furline · **Joined:** Wed May 05, 2004 3:45 pm **Posts:** 2626

One of the original TP-51D extended canopies for comparison.

Lynn Allen · **Posted:** Wed Apr 09, 2025 1:50 pm

JohnTerrell wrote:

Lynn Allen wrote:

Mr. Bull seems to have the market on P-51's like the gentlemen in the 80's who had a coral of Mustangs as well.

Yeah, Connie Edwards had six Mustangs for a time in the 80s, all ex-Guatemalan Air Force. At this time, Dan Friedkin owns 8 Mustangs (A-36A, P-51B, P-51C, 3 x P-51D, P-51K, TF-51D) and Bob Bull owns 6 Mustangs (P-51B, 4x P-51D, TF-51D). Louis Horschel I believe owns 4 Mustangs (P-51B, P-51D, TF-51D, and a P-51D reported to be under restoration as a TF-51D). I can't think of any other collector who has 4 or more.

Thank you for those, I want to say he was a Doctor as I have the Trade A Plane ad some where. Maybe early 90's...

bomberfan · **Posted:** Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:04 am

JohnTerrell wrote:

I can't think of any other collector who has 4 or more.

Ron Fagen owns 4. He's got Sweet Revenge, Twilight Tear, the B model 43-12112 and the newest one Jane VI, although they aren't planning on keeping that one.

MKD1966 · **Posted:** Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:56 am

In the mid to late 80's Bob Byrne in Detroit, Michigan had seven...
1. Rascal
2. Rascal Too
3. Rascal III
4. Rascal IV / Sumpin' Else
5. Checkered Mustang
6. Hurry Home Honey
7. Tabasco / The Hot Stuff

JohnTerrell · **Posted:** Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:47 pm

bomberfan wrote:

Ron Fagen owns 4. He's got Sweet Revenge, Twilight Tear, the B model 43-12112 and the newest one Jane VI, although they aren't planning on keeping that one.

I should have thought of that. I also forgot to consider the five that call the Dakota Territory Air Museum home (though not all owned by one guy), and a sixth under restoration to join them.

Sorry for the thread drift!

MKD1966 · **Posted:** Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:59 pm

JohnTerrell wrote:

bomberfan wrote:

Ron Fagen owns 4. He's got Sweet Revenge, Twilight Tear, the B model 43-12112 and the newest one Jane VI, although they aren't planning on keeping that one.

I should have thought of that. I also forgot to consider the five that share a roof over their heads at the Dakota Territory Air Museum as well (though not all owned by one guy), and a sixth under restoration to join them.

Sorry for the thread drift!

Mr. John - if we're looking at it from a under one roof view then we have to mention the Planes of Fame Museum... Besides Miss Virginia, Spam Can/Dolly, Wee Willy II, and Voodoo they have a lot of visiting Mustangs under their roof...

DH82EH · **Posted:** Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:10 am

How many are parked at Stallion 51 at any given point?
Bill, thanks for the photos.
John, always appreciate your knowledge and insight.

Andy

T J Johansen · **Posted:** Fri Apr 11, 2025 5:30 pm

JohnTerrell wrote:

Lynn Allen wrote:

Mr. Bull seems to have the market on P-51's like the gentlemen in the 80's who had a coral of Mustangs as well.

Yeah, Connie Edwards had six Mustangs for a time in the 80s, all ex-Guatemalan Air Force. At this time, Dan Friedkin owns 8 Mustangs (A-36A, P-51B, P-51C, 3 x P-51D, P-51K, TF-51D) and Bob Bull owns 6 Mustangs (P-51B, 4x P-51D, TF-51D). Louis Horschel I believe owns 4 Mustangs (P-51B, P-51D, TF-51D, and a P-51D reported to be under restoration as a TF-51D). I can't think of any other collector who has 4 or more.

I think you will find that Connie Edwards had more than 6 Mustangs in the 1980s. Apart from the Guatemalan stock he also had several ex- Salvadorean 51s as well. N30FF, N31FF, N33FF, N34FF and N35FF were all a part of The Edwards stable at one time. Some regd. to Howard Development which was a company owned by him and his brother "Buddo". 30FF and 34FF had been sold in the 70s, but both 33FF and 35FF remained well into the 80s. One then went to Robert Nottke and the other to Bill Rheinschild. N31FF was present when I visited the ranch in 1991, going through several owners and now spends time on the west coast of Norway. Add to this N119H which was an Edwards Mustang in the 1980s. And also ex- Nicaraguan N150U "Lady Colonel" which his brother's widow Patsy might also have been a part of. This was an Edwards plane since the late 60s. So, more Mustangs have called the Lazy E Ranch home than one might think.

Adding to the list Bob Jepson had four P-51s back in the day if I'm not mistaken.

T J

Lynn Allen · **Posted:** Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:06 am

MKD1966 wrote:

In the mid to late 80's Bob Byrne in Detroit, Michigan had seven...
1. Rascal
2. Rascal Too
3. Rascal III
4. Rascal IV / Sumpin' Else
5. Checkered Mustang
6. Hurry Home Honey
7. Tabasco / The Hot Stuff

Thank you for this as this is who I was thinking of...

Lynn

phil65 · **Posted:** Sat Apr 12, 2025 12:49 pm

It should be illegal for anybody to own more than two P-51's... :lol:

Phil

MKD1966 · **Posted:** Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:52 pm

Lynn Allen wrote:

MKD1966 wrote:

In the mid to late 80's Bob Byrne in Detroit, Michigan had seven...
1. Rascal
2. Rascal Too
3. Rascal III
4. Rascal IV / Sumpin' Else
5. Checkered Mustang
6. Hurry Home Honey
7. Tabasco / The Hot Stuf

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Thank you for this as this is who I was thinking of...

During this time Mr. Byrne also had 2 P-40K's... The 1st was "Burma Rascal" that went on to be converted to a TP-40 for the Collings Foundation and the 2nd one has been under restoration for a few years with Butch Shroeder...

Lynn

Lynn Allen · **Posted:** Sun Apr 13, 2025 5:45 pm

phil65 wrote:

It should be illegal for anybody to own more than two P-51's... :lol:

Phil

I don't know about that as it would be like the old days where you had a different date for each day of the week... :wink:

Lynn Allen · **Posted:** Sun Apr 13, 2025 5:50 pm

T J Johansen wrote:

JohnTerrell wrote:

Lynn Allen wrote:

Mr. Bull seems to have the market on P-51's like the gentlemen in the 80's who had a coral of Mustangs as well.

Yeah, Connie Edwards had six Mustangs for a time in the 80s, all ex-Guatemalan Air Force. At this time, Dan Friedkin owns 8 Mustangs (A-36A, P-51B, P-51C, 3 x P-51D, P-51K, TF-51D) and Bob Bull owns 6 Mustangs (P-51B, 4x P-51D, TF-51D). Louis Horschel I believe owns 4 Mustangs (P-51B, P-51D, TF-51D, and a P-51D reported to be under restoration as a TF-51D). I can't think of any other collector who has 4 or more.

I think you will find that Connie Edwards had more than 6 Mustangs in the 1980s. Apart from the Guatemalan stock he also had several ex- Salvadorean 51s as well. N30FF, N31FF, N33FF, N34FF and N35FF were all a part of The Edwards stable at one time. Some regd. to Howard Development which was a company owned by him and his brother "Buddo". 30FF and 34FF had been sold in the 70s, but both 33FF and 35FF remained well into the 80s. One then went to Robert Nottke and the other to Bill Rheinschild. N31FF was present when I visited the ranch in 1991, going through several owners and now spends time on the west coast of Norway. Add to this N119H which was an Edwards Mustang in the 1980s. And also ex- Nicaraguan N150U "Lady Colonel" which his brother's widow Patsy might also have been a part of. This was an Edwards plane since the late 60s. So, more Mustangs have called the Lazy E Ranch home than one might think.

Adding to the list Bob Jepson had four P-51s back in the day if I'm not mistaken.

T J

I agree as I flew over his ranch years ago and it looked like a fighter base as they had several parked outside.

JohnB · **Posted:** Sun Apr 13, 2025 7:14 pm

Lynn Allen wrote:

phil65 wrote:

It should be illegal for anybody to own more than two P-51's... :lol:

Phil

I don't know about that as it would be like the old days where you had a different date for each day of the week... :wink:

At least Mustangs are better than '70s-80s Jaguars, where you had to have one for each day of the week to ensure you had one that would work.

Okay that's a slight exaggeration...you only really needed three.

Thomas_Mac · **Posted:** Mon Apr 14, 2025 9:33 am

JohnTerrell wrote:

That is the P-51B 'Old Crow' that Jack Roush used to own, but it is now owned by Bob Bull in Florida. He also owns the Mustangs 'Gentleman Jim', 'The Rebel', 'Tiger's Revenge', 'Geraldine' (currently getting new paint), and a blue-nosed TF-51D (ex-E Pluribus Unum). Being based at Jumbolair, it was a relatively short flight to SNF, but a lot of maintenance over the past few months to get them all ready (including their Corsair and B-25 as well).

Not sure if 'Six Shooter' has changed hands but it also looks to be hangared with this collection.

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