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Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:21 pm
Curious if any of these are airworthy? Anybody know?
Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:57 pm
As for Panthers, there are none currently airworthy although there are two that are potential airworthy projects (or so they were advertised as a few months ago). The last time a Panther flew I think would have been the Kalamazoo Panther that ended up being badly damaged in a force landing and fire about twenty years ago.
There haven't been any airworthy swept-wing Cougars for decades unfortunately, I'm pretty sure none have been flown as warbirds. *EDIT: Not correct, see below.*
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LysanderUK on Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:42 am, edited 1 time in total.
Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:03 pm
Cavanaugh Flight Museum has an F9F-2B which was flying in the mid 1990s. I don't think it has been flown for a number of years, possibly due to insurance and other issues. It was still on display in the "jet" hangar, last I was there, maybe a year ago.
Randy
P.S. Photo on display here:
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/7857817
Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:15 pm
https://www.colettiscombataircraft.com/ ... %2C%201954.
The last Cougar was phased out when Training Squadron 4 (VT-4) re-equipped in February 1974.
Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:54 pm
There was an F9F - I don't know if was a Panther or a Cougar thas was brought back from,Argentina over 20 years ago.
I seem,to recall it was made airworthy, and was based at the Brazoria County airport, in Texas.
Did it go to Dallas?
Tulio, with no answers.
EDITED
It was an F9F-2B (BuAer 127147) was registered as N91867 to Clyde Barton, Lake Jackson, TC.
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:03 pm
And, there was a TF-9J (BuAer 142498) also brought back from Argentina, registered as N24WJ and destroyed in flight, Oct31, 1991 over the Louisiana coast.
Saludos,
Tulio
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:13 pm
I think the last Cougar to fly was Don Whittington's (World Jet) N24WJ, a TF-9J which disappeared on Oct. 31, 1991 returning to FL from the Museum of Flying auction. Flown by a colorful individual named John Verdi.
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/34873A couple of threads regarding this one here:
http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.o ... hp?t=32933http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.o ... f=3&t=5365Blog on John Verdi:
http://blackshadowaviation.blogspot.com ... verde.htmlIn lieu of a flying Panther/ Cougar, here is a video of the known flying Panthers displaying together at Tico in 1987, courtesy of their owners Art Wolk and Harry Doan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NffYKWQz_7AT J
Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:40 pm
Old age may be getting the better of me, but I distinctly recall seeing a dismantled Grumman F9F-something jet stored behind one of the late Howard Pardue's hangars at Breckenridge back in the late 1980s or early 1990s. Someone there told me that the jet was a Cougar, and I was pretty excited about it since I wasn't aware of any of them being in private hands at that time. Somewhere in my archives I might have a photo of it, but it would take forever to find.
Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:55 pm
Good memory , yes you did see that in the Breckinridge pic and I remember it too. Good question as to which one it was.
Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:37 pm
Nelson Ezell have me a tour of Breckenridge circa 2004....he had keys to Howard's hangars and showed me various bits which could become projects given enough money (I recall a Corsair center section)....
No Grumman jets there then.
Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:45 pm
Texas Air Museum, in Rio Hondo, TX, had a sad looking F9'F earlier this century.
Leon Moer, of WIX fame, had at least one of them Grummans at his property in Northern Ohio. I think that it had multiple bullet holes in it.
Pima Air museum had one on outside display, very colorful.
Saludos,
Tulio
Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:35 pm
Strangely, there was a Cougar in Lafayette, GA several years ago when I used to go there for work frequently. It was outdoors and the wings were removed.
Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:57 am
Tulio wrote:Leon Moer, of WIX fame, had at least one of them Grummans at his property in Northern Ohio. I think that it had multiple bullet holes in it.
Are you thinking of Leon Cleaver? If so, that was F9F-6P BuNo 128298 and F9F-8P Cougar B/N 144388. Photos on this thread:
http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/p ... =3&t=32600
Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:05 am
Back in 2002, this one was in storage at Fantasy of Flight. Probably still there.
IM000856_crop by
Jelle Hieminga, on Flickr
Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:20 am
Chris Brame wrote:Tulio wrote:Leon Moer, of WIX fame, had at least one of them Grummans at his property in Northern Ohio. I think that it had multiple bullet holes in it.
Are you thinking of Leon Cleaver? If so, that was F9F-6P BuNo 128298 and F9F-8P Cougar B/N 144388. Photos on this thread:
http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/p ... =3&t=32600
Yes... My sincere apologies to both Leons.
And, thank you for clearing my SNAFU
Saludos,
Tulio
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