Jeff Funk wrote:
First, Parks College is not located at the main St. Louis University campus. It is located across the Mississippi in Illinois at the St. Louis Downtown Parks Airport located at approximate coordinates (38.573048, -90.155933). I do not have exact coordinates for the building(s) that belong to Parks.
Aaahhhh right. I already had that one located, but since I was focused on another state I overlooked it.
Mark Nankivil wrote:
There is a Cessna 310 on display at St. Louis University for the Parks Air College branch of the school:
38 38' 10.91"N 90 13' 49.85"W
I didn’t know about that one. Thanks for the heads up!
Jeff Funk wrote:
Second, you're pretty close to the correct location for the Historic Aircraft Restoration Museum. I believe the coordinates (38.725831, -90.506058) is slightly more accurate but I only visited once. Of course Al Stix or Eric Downing are the ultimate experts on this location. I believe Eric flies out of this field as does on the "Petie" mustangs.
Mark Nankivil wrote:
The Historic Aviation Restoration Museum (HARM) at Creve Coeur Airport is at:
38 43' 27.50"N 90 30' 22.93"W
There's three hangars there with the aircraft situated in each.
bdk wrote:
Historic Aircraft Restoration Museum is down that road that curves to the right, It is the three large hangars on the right side, the largest hangars on the field.
I have changed the coordinates, and improved the error level to “in sight”.
Jeff Funk wrote:
Third, the monocoupe at Lambert Field in St. Louis used to be located where Concourse C meets the east end of the Main terminal. I suggest coordinates (38.742151, -90.155933) as slightly more accurate.
Hmmmm… those coordinates are quite ways off the mark. Did you get them by doing the right click thing on one of my maps? Would you mind trying again and seeing if you get different or the same results? If there is a bug in the maps I would like to get it fixed.
Jeff Funk wrote:
Fourth, while driving by the Scott City / Cape Girardeau Regional Airport last summer (at 70 mph), I remember seeing an A-4 on the entrance road where it parallels I-55. I don't remember the exact location, but definitely at least one A-4. There might have been another on the ramp.
I can’t see it in the area you describe using Google Earth. It is likely a recent placement and the reference to an A-4 on the ramp is likely the same airframe waiting to be displayed at the location you describe. I have changed the coordinates, but I will leave it at the “area” error level until the exact location is confirmed. Thanks for this!
Jeff Funk wrote:
Finally a minor point of precision. You listed a number of locations (Overland, Maryland Heights, Castle Point, O'Fallon, St. Ann, Edmundson and Florissant) under "St. Louis". They are actually small cities that are politically independent of the City of St. Louis. Of course, to folks outside the St. Louis area, they're all part of St. Louis. On the other hand, St. Charles is actually closer to St. Louis than O'Fallon.
Thanks for the note Jeff. The city listings do not necessarily represent political boundaries, as it is intended to make trip planning easier for the visiting traveler. It allows locations where are nearby each other to be grouped together in the listing, and allows near-by markers on a map to be clustered together with one marker. I have considered changing the system, but I think the benefits to the visitors outweigh the potential confusion to the locals. Thanks for the comments though. Feel free to keep them coming. I would like the Locator to be a tool everyone finds easy to use.
Chris Brame wrote:
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#2947 - Saint Louis - Apparently there is a F-86 displayed outside the business Bissell Auto and Body in Saint Louis. Can you Confirm? If so where exactly is it?
38 37 25.61 N, 90 13 38.92 W
Address is 3000 Chouteau, Saint Louis, MO 63103 near the SE corner of Chouteau and S. Cardinal. I found it by checking the online Yellow Pages and going to the bird's eye map setting; even then it took some looking to spot it because it's apparently just a fuselage. Looks like NMF with a yellow band around the middle.
Mark Nankivil wrote:
The F-86D at Bissell's Truck Body is on a dolly and is the fuselage only minus the radome and canopy:
38 37' 25.59"N 90 13' 38.96"W
There's some MiG-21 and F-4 bits and pieces on the south side of the main building.
Top notch! I am sure I was looking right at the hulk in the sat images before, but without the photos you would not recognize it has a Sabre. I have also added a note about the MiG-21 and F-4 bits.
Mark Nankivil wrote:
Hopefully this will help....
I always chuckle at bit when people write that. When people provide coordinates it helps in a big way. Thanks.
Mark Nankivil wrote:
At Lambert Field at the entrance to the MOANG 131stFW/110thFS HQ, there is an F-100 and an F-15 which are both accessible to the public as they are outside the base gate. Here's a photo of the F-100, I guess I don't have a full airframe shot of the F-15...
Thanks for the photos. Scott may be able to use them in the registry.
Mark Nankivil wrote:
Just south of that location along the fence line of I-70, there is an F-4D hulk:
38 44' 28.71"N 90 22' 27.82"W
When did you last spot it? Andry Marden’s book (see the book secion of my credits page) indicates the hulk was beside an old building but had disappeared. Perhaps it was just moved to the location you provided.
Mark Nankivil wrote:
The F-4E is mounted within the MOANG base and is not accessible but can be seen from I-70 and the road within the airport:
Noted.
Mark Nankivil wrote:
Down at Jefferson Barracks, there is an F-4E displayed. Direct access is not possible but you can easily see it from the road thru the park:
38 30' 20.37"N 80 16' 47.42"W
Noted.
Mark Nankivil wrote:
The City Museum has a Sabreliner hulk outside on the west side of the building, hanging off of the roof:
38 38' 00.75"N 90 12' 02.78"W
I knew there was something there, I just could not quite say for sure it was a T-39.
Mark Nankivil wrote:
There's also an F-101F on display up in Florissant, MO at the Civic Center - I need to go find it and get photos:
38 47' 30.83"N 90 17' 55.08"W
I already have it in the database. Thanks anyway!
Mark Nankivil wrote:
Down in Sikeston, the F-4J used to be in other markings - drawing a blank at the moment which squadron this is...
Yep… that F-4 is here: 36 53 06.64 N 89 33 56.54 W
Mark Nankivil wrote:
The F-4E down in Monett, MO is at:
36 54' 39.42"N 93 55' 40.94"W
Yep that one is in the database.
bdk wrote:
Although they don't have any real airplanes, the James S. McDonnell "Prologue Room" might be worthy of mention:
Yep, it is already listed in the “off topic” section which included aviation themed museums without aircraft. I would provide a link right now, but it appears there is a bug in the Locator which is preventing it from being included in the list.
Thanks to all for the most excellent data. I’ll do an upload tonight and repost the “Need Help” list then.
Mike
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I would have much preferred the original cockpit display project.