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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:18 pm 
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I e-mailed the curator of the ESAM about the Bermuda and the B-26.
He said (WITHOUT MY ASKING HIM) that the B-26 "is not at Pima."
He also said that the loans on these two aircraft expired and he doesn't know where the Brewster is. He did not say where the B-26 is.

Just thought I'd let you know.


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Hey Wolverine,

So when did this happen, the reason I ask is because I talk to David on Monday and he was going to set up my photo trip at PIMA for me.

Are you sure that they haven't been moved inside I do know that is part of the agreement thatafter they arrive that they would be move to a building for work.

Must call David at home to find out what is going home. Hey BDK anything laying in MARCs compound?

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What is the ESAM ? I can guess the last two letters...

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Col Rohr.-- That's just what he said. I didn't ask him where the Marauder was, just asked its current condition. He told me it wasn't at Pima without my asking him.

Dave--it stands for Empire State Aerosciences Museum. The B-26 has been under restoration there for several years.


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Hi Wolverine,

Thanks I wonder whats up then because as of last month both the B-26 and the S2BC where at PIMA along with the F4F.P-40, and a few other stuff of Davids.

I'll get back to you all, I'll give my coz. a callsince he works right across the street from PIMA, you all know the place with all those nice aircraft lined up in neat rows. :P

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Hi,

I'm the Assistant Curator at Pima. I can assure you that the Marauder and Bermuda are both at Pima. I have no idea why the person at ESAM would think they are somewhere else.

James Stemm
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Hi James,

Could you possiable give me a list of what david has sent you guys so far. i'm doing a book on the early Warbird collectors and I'm doing the chapter on David right now. Also I'm trying to come up with a list of everything he still has right now.

Thanks for any information you can provide.

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Wait a couple of weeks and you will get the list, details and photos of all the aircraft involved...in a three page article in the next Classic Wings :wink:

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Hey Dave,

And if you all can wait a year we all have photos of all of david aircraft for I don't know how many pages article :shock: :wink:


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Correct me if I'm wrong.....but I think the B-26 at ESAM was just one of Tallichet's C nose sections. Kermit Weeks has one of them. These are the two nose sections that came from the NAA engineer in Pacific Pallisades who tried to convert them into a motorhome....He got as far as bolting both sections together and putting wheels on them. Tallichet got them in 1984. One of the noses (I think the one Kermit has) was only four serial numbers away from the CAF's airplane that crashed.

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Col. Rohr wrote:
Hey Dave,

And if you all can wait a year we all have photos of all of david aircraft for I don't know how many pages article :shock: :wink:


Well you know what they say.... 'patience is a virtue' 8)

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JohnH wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong.....but I think the B-26 at ESAM was just one of Tallichet's C nose sections.

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It's actually one of the three "Million Dollar Valley" aircraft recovered back in the '70s - one is airworthy with Kermit Weeks and the other is under restoration with MAPS at Canton.

I only went to ESAM once, in 1997, and the complete fuselage was being worked on then

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Did he have more than just nose sections of the C models? In the early 80s I remember seeing at Chino a B-26 rear fuselage with Japanese markings and fake bulletholes (probably ex-movie studio).

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THE B-26 WAS AT THE EMPIRE STATE AIR MUSEUM, SCHENECTADY N.Y. EARLIER THIS YEAR. I'LL CHECK IT OUT, IT'S RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD.


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Chris Brame wrote:
Did he have more than just nose sections of the C models? In the early 80s I remember seeing at Chino a B-26 rear fuselage with Japanese markings and fake bulletholes (probably ex-movie studio).


Yes that was the movie nose....he had three of them. Thanks for the correction. One of the noses of the three aircraft was destroyed during the Million Dollar Crash....so are they bolting one of the C model noses onto the third fuselage? I seem to remember that was what was being done, and I did see a pic of one of those noses at ESAM.

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