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 Post subject: B-17 raised in Canada
PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 4:34 am 
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Can Canadian WIXers shed any light on the story below? It was brought to my attention by Dave Mcdonald in Downunderland but does not appear to have been picked up by any of the forums I monitor.

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www.columbustelegram.com/articles/2004/ ... /news1.txt


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Hi Gregory

This is amazing - a few B17s and major parts hve turned up in Canadian likes but this one is fantastic

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According to the Undertwater Admiralty website Brooks Aviation were granted salvage rights in March 2004 and they intended to start salvage operations in August 2004:

http://www.nwrain.net/~newtsuit/uasi/breakingnews/decision.htm[/url]


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Hmmm...is that suposed to be me as 'Guest' ? I didn't post it ...

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Hi Scott - get the net ready we appear to be having a problem again Houston - Put her into warp drive Capn

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 Post subject: Is she up yet?
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Is she up yet?


http://www.avweb.com/newswire/10_36b/br ... 057-1.html

kind of says in progress. Though the orginal article says has been "lifted" I am confused....

Also see

http://www.trivalleyherald.com/Stories/ ... 71,00.html

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http://www.tribnet.com/news/story/54332 ... 9371c.html


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I hope this is true

The rest of the plane is in good condition.

"The plane will fly again," Mester said.

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Is this B-17 going to be tied in with the "Liberty Bell"?

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Hmmm...is that suposed to be me as 'Guest' ? I didn't post it ...

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Nope its me matey

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Hi all--

Yes, the Dyke Lake B-17 has been raised; congrats to Don Brooks and team on a milestone achieved. According to the article Dave MacD sent, not only was the Fort very nicely preserved by lake water described as "pristine", but the recovery team even found the crew's survival camp undisturbed!

This project has been in the works about a decade from what I know. Don Brooks has already been an operator of a large Warbird type; he owned (and possibly still owns) a C-47 Dakota, ex-437 Sqn RCAF KG395.

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 Post subject: pics
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Any pics yet?????


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Wow this is awesome!!!!!!!!!!! This one has really got me going! I am interested to know if anyone knows the name of the B-17. Sorry if I somebody wrote it and I didn't catch it.
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Hmmm...is that suposed to be me as 'Guest' ? I didn't post it ...

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Ok , thanks Dave...been a few silly things happening of late with a poster using other peoples names :roll:

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Can't find the orignal article on the web, but I lifted this from another message board...
A Second World War-era bomber is on it's way to the Southern United States after being raised from a frigid Labrador lake and towed on a non-stop "mad dash" through the uncharted northern waters.
The fragile wreck of the B-17 Flying Fortress, which crash landed in 1947, was brought to dry land just before a raging storm hit the area earlier this month, creating 6 - to 8 - foot swells that would have destroyed the plane.
Don Brooks, an American auto-parts millionaire, plans to restore the bomber to flying condition.
But years of painstaking preparation and legal wrangling with provincial authorities, capped by a daring resurrection of the craft, almost ended in disaster. Pulling the wreck with fishing boats, the crew travelled through the night to get the plane to safety.
"We made a mad dash and it didn't allow us any time to stop. If we had, we might have lost the plane on the last day," said Bob Mester, who led the salvage operation. "This environment was so involved, with islands, outcroppings, trees, snags. It was just a nightmare to go through...We had no sooner turned in to land than the weather turned into a horror story.
It was on Christmas Eve, 1947, when the US Air Force plane was forced to make an emergency landing on frozen Dyke Lake, 430 kilometers northwest of Goose Bay. It was on it's way back from a mission to pick up a Danish doctor and a Canadian weather service officer who had died in the Arctic.
The crew and passengers were retrieved in a dramatic rescue mission. The plane eventually sank when the ice melted. Mr. Brooks and his team found it in 1998. But Newfoundland and Labrador went to court to fight their efforts to salvage the bomber, arguing the wreck belonged to the province.
Last year, the Federal Court ruled that the Americans could retrieve the B-17, but left open the question of ownership.
As part of a deal reached last month, the province has agreed to hand over the plane to Mr. Brooks, a warplane buff who owns 38 NAPA Autoparts stores in Georgia. In return, Mr. Brooks has agreed to fund an exhibit somewhere in Newfoundland and Labrador on the B-17 and it's history and fly another restored B-17 to the province sometime next year.
"I think it's a win-win for both of us," Brent Meade, assistant deputy minister of tourism, culture and recreation, said yesterday. "He'll have the aircraft; he'll restore it...He'll have it flying again. It will be a testament to his vision, but it will also tell the story of what happened at Dyke Lake all those years ago."
As lawyers battled in court, the salvage team worked for years to perfect the system they would use to lift the plane out of Dyke Lake. Air bags were even tested on a restored B-17 at the Seattle Museum of Flight.
"It was a monumental task," said Mr. Mester, whose company Underwater Admiralty Services, specializes in such work.
When the plane was finally floated to the surface this month, time was of the essence. Team members figured they had barely enough buoyancy left in the air bags to keep the plane from sinking, and weather reports recieved by satellite phone indicated a major storm was brewing in the area, which is dominated by the massive reservoir of the Churchill Falls hydroelectric dam.
They set off as quickly as possible, using satellite positioning devices to guide them to a spot where a road met the water. Navigating channels that were sometimes not much wider that the plane's 103-foot wingspan, they sailed through the night without sleep, the only light provided by the stars and the Aurora Borealis.
A day after they reached the landing place, a storm hit, churning up huge waves on the reservoir. The wreck was then trucked to Labrador City, where it awaits air transport to Georgia.


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Looks like she is in Georgia now..
http://www.columbustelegram.com/article ... /news5.txt
WWII pilot gets look at rescued plane

By JEAN WILSON/Telegram Assistant Editor
COLUMBUS - After climbing a ladder to get a better look at the cockpit, Jack Bullington tried to remember the positions of the mixture controls and throttle controls at the time of the emergency landing about 57 years ago on a frozen lake.

"That was kind of interesting. It didn't seem like they were in the right positions when we came in," Bullington said.

The Columbus man recently traveled to Douglas, Ga., to watch the unloading of the World War II search and rescue plane that had been pulled out of Dyke Lake in Labrador in August. Don Brooks of Georgia is funding the recovery and restoration efforts and plans to fly the plane once it is in good working condition. It took years to gain approval from the Canadian government to pull the plane out of Dyke Lake and to return it to the United States.

On Dec. 24, 1947, Bulling was the co-pilot of the U.S. Army Air Corps aircraft that was making a routine delivery flight when a fuel shortage caused navigational problems. Surrounded by the clear, cold water, the B-17 bomber had been protected from ultraviolet rays and pollution.

Most of the plane remains in good shape, according to Bullington, who was the only crew member present at the unloading.

Much of its body is rust free. In 1947, the U.S. Army Air Corps had cut off the nose of the plane to salvage radar equipment and other instruments. Part of the tail section is also missing, but is thought to be the easiest part to replace. The tires are still inflated, Bullington said. One part of the aircraft still had green primer paint on it. The propellers will have to be replaced because they are bent as will the engines because they were under water for too long.

The aluminum front end was crushed, probably after sinking underwater and having ice push down on it.

Rectangular rubber gas tanks are still in one piece, but will most likely be replaced, Bullington said.

The airplane was dismantled and loaded onto three semi tractor trailer trucks for transporting to Georgia. Because the load was wide, the trucks only traveled during daylight hours. Even after all the years of cutting red tape, it took lawyers to get the trucks through customs at the Canadian border.

Bullington spent about five days at Douglas. On the second day, before the trucks were known to have arrived in that town, he was riding in a car at the edge of town and saw two of the trucks, which carried engines, the fuselage and some wooden boxes packed with parts.

"That was quite a shock. To see them right there," Bullington said.

He had been waiting for the day for a long time.

"Since '98. That's when we first heard about (the recovery efforts,)" he said.

The next day the third truck came in with the wings.

As he captured the unloading on film, Bullington thought about the uniqueness of the situation.

"It doesn't happen very often to crash a plane then have it recovered. Most of the time if you crash, ... there's nothing left of it," he said. "When it came out of the water it looked pretty good."

Mud still clings to many of the nooks and crevices, and its removal with a fire hose is the first step toward restoration.

After the emergency landing 57 years ago, the seven crew members and two passengers spent two nights in the wilderness waiting for rescuers in temperatures that dropped to 20 degrees below zero.

In 1998, when the abandoned aircraft was located about six miles from where searchers expected it to be in the lake, the B-17 was described as a time capsule. The corresponding discovery of the campsite used by the plane's crew and passengers was unexpected. Cooking utensils, a canteen, an ax, a can of food and a wood pile were as they had been left all those years before. Parachute shrouds that had been used to tie makeshift shelters onto trees were still tied in place.


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