Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:35 pm
JohnB wrote:Considering the amount of damage, and you can buy a nice older restoration Stearman for <$100k, I would think it's totaled.
Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:56 pm
airnutz wrote:JohnB wrote:Considering the amount of damage, and you can buy a nice older restoration Stearman for <$100k, I would think it's totaled.
Years ago I heard it cost about $100k to build a set of wings for the Stearman. Do you know if that sounds close to correct JohnB?
Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:45 pm
JohnB wrote:Considering the amount of damage, and you can buy a nice older restoration Stearman for <$100k, I would think it's totaled.
Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:29 pm
Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:36 am
Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:15 pm
Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:24 pm
menards wrote:question for aircraft owners/operators out there. Would insurance coverage be voided since the pilot was attemting a take off off-airport?
Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:06 pm
menards wrote:question for aircraft owners/operators out there. Would insurance coverage be voided since the pilot was attemting a take off off-airport?
Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:51 pm
Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:26 pm
JohnB wrote:But do the average aircraft policies have a prohibition of "wrecking an airplane by doing some ill-considered stunt"?
I feel sorry for the guy, and I've never taken off a Stearman, but on the surface, a takeoff from that location seems a bit unwise.
Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:13 am
JohnB wrote:But do the average aircraft policies have a prohibition of "wrecking an airplane by doing some ill-considered stunt"?
I feel sorry for the guy, and I've never taken off a Stearman, but on the surface, a takeoff from that location seems a bit unwise.
Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:41 am
Stearman rudder is effective on takeoff and is certainly very effective in flight (does great slips!).RyanShort1 wrote:Of course the Stearman's rudder isn't as effective as some, and perhaps he took a gust of wind that he and the plane just couldn't handle.
Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:03 am
bdk wrote:Stearman rudder is effective on takeoff and is certainly very effective in flight (does great slips!).RyanShort1 wrote:Of course the Stearman's rudder isn't as effective as some, and perhaps he took a gust of wind that he and the plane just couldn't handle.
Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:38 pm
Kyleb wrote:JohnB wrote:But do the average aircraft policies have a prohibition of "wrecking an airplane by doing some ill-considered stunt"?
I feel sorry for the guy, and I've never taken off a Stearman, but on the surface, a takeoff from that location seems a bit unwise.
There are no "stupid mistake" stipulations in most insurance policies. That's why you buy insurance - we all make stupid mistakes.
And a lot of the time we get away with them.
More experienced pilots (and drivers and....) usually get better insurance rates because it is assumed their seasoning reduces their chances of making a dumb mistake. Probably true. But age/experience doesn't eliminate the risk.
Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:07 pm
menards wrote:There are “stupid mistakes” like forgetting to put the gear down and wrecking a nice Mooney. Then there are “stupid mistakes” like this one. Taking off from a street with tight margins and no room for error. It doesn’t seem fair to me that an insurance co would have to pay for a stearman, a light pole and some traffic signals. Also the recovery towing/ops.