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Re: Warbird types that didn't survive....but wishing one had

Thu May 03, 2018 8:19 pm

F7U-1
XF10F
Did I mention F7U-1....?

Re: Warbird types that didn't survive....but wishing one had

Thu May 03, 2018 9:13 pm

Japanese warbirds always seem to be forgotten (other than Zeroes) particularly the multi-engine types. There are only handful of Japanese multi-engine warbirds in existence, most of them heavy fighters. I would love to see a complete G4M Betty, G3M Nell or Ki-21 Sally. I think the only complete Japanese multi-engine bomber extant is the P1Y1 "Frances" in storage with NASM. The only original B5N Kate is an incomplete hulk, which may hopefully form the basis of a restoration someday. Ditto for the D3A Val (I'm not sure how much original material there is in the Deimert "restoration" now be slowly rebuilt by Planes of Fame.)

On the US side, I definitely concur that a B-32 and at least one of the B-35/B-39 prototypes should have been saved. It would have been cool to see the B-19 and XB-15/XC-105 preserved as well. And even though it's not specifically a warbird (although some were impressed into military service) I think it's criminal that nobody saved a Boeing 314.


SN

Re: Warbird types that didn't survive....but wishing one had

Thu May 03, 2018 9:30 pm

I agree a Consolidated B-32 Dominator
Maybe I need to locate of of their 19 crash sites and discover one of their data plates and get started building one.
Here is the list of B-32 accidents. There has got to be something remaining somewhere.
http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/src/ ... Submit3=Go

Re: Warbird types that didn't survive....but wishing one had

Thu May 03, 2018 9:52 pm

Curtiss SBC Helldiver and (especially) SOC Seagull - never understood how all the Seagulls fell through the cracks; and I guess it's not an interesting enough aircraft for anyone to replicate.

North American BT-9 and BT-14 - the Yale is close but not the same.

Re: Warbird types that didn't survive....but wishing one had

Tue May 15, 2018 11:02 am

Curtiss AT-9 "Jeep". A real hotrod.

Re: Warbird types that didn't survive....but wishing one had

Tue May 15, 2018 12:10 pm

The Supermarine Spiteful and Seafang also the Martin Baker MB3 and MB5.

Re: Warbird types that didn't survive....but wishing one had

Tue May 15, 2018 12:34 pm

Boeing 314.

Re: Warbird types that didn't survive....but wishing one had

Tue May 15, 2018 9:03 pm

michaelj2k wrote:Curtiss AT-9 "Jeep". A real hotrod.
You're in luck!
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/ ... fledgling/
Last edited by Elwyn on Tue May 15, 2018 9:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: Warbird types that didn't survive....but wishing one had

Tue May 15, 2018 9:06 pm

Chris Brame wrote:Curtiss SBC Helldiver and (especially) SOC Seagull - never understood how all the Seagulls fell through the cracks; and I guess it's not an interesting enough aircraft for anyone to replicate.


I agree with both. Plus a P-43!

Re: Warbird types that didn't survive....but wishing one had

Tue May 15, 2018 10:25 pm

Elwyn wrote:
michaelj2k wrote:Curtiss AT-9 "Jeep". A real hotrod.
You're in luck!
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/ ... fledgling/

You're doubly (?) in luck!
http://www.pimaair.org/aircraft-by-name ... at-9a-jeep

Re: Warbird types that didn't survive....but wishing one had

Tue May 15, 2018 10:32 pm

The AT-9 was kind of an odd duck in that it was designed to help transition people to higher performance multi-engined aircraft. Yet, the AT-9 was a taildragger, whereas all of those supposedly harder to fly, higher performance multi-engined aircraft utilized the tricycle gear configuration.

Re: Warbird types that didn't survive....but wishing one had

Wed May 16, 2018 12:10 am

How bout a FW 200 condor.

Re: Warbird types that didn't survive....but wishing one had

Wed May 16, 2018 12:51 am

JOHN MILLER wrote:How bout a FW 200 condor.

http://company.airbus.com/company/herit ... ondor.html

Re: Warbird types that didn't survive....but wishing one had

Wed May 16, 2018 10:08 am

The VT-2 TBDs definitely move the type from "extinct" to "known but awaiting recovery". Completely agree with those speaking about the Stirling, SBC and SOC, and I'll add the Whitley and Bloch MB 152C to that list. I don't think any Curtiss SC-1s survive, either. On the German side, it would be great to see an actual Bf 109D, Bf 109K, or Ta 152C, but they're all gone with no hope of a lucky underwater recovery. There's a fellow building a K-4 from scratch in Germany which will be amazing, I'm certain.

Lynn

Re: Warbird types that didn't survive....but wishing one had

Wed May 16, 2018 11:01 am

XF-11

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