rcaf_100 wrote:
EDIT: Didn't notice his name on the original listing on page one...my bad.
That's okay, I do appreciate that you went back to check, though!
At least people getting mentioned more than once seems to confirm that they are indeed important.
Nathan wrote:
I wouldn't include Chuck Yeager as he insulted the warbird community on more then one occasion!
I know it would seem pretty harsh to exclude him from the list, but he hasn't done anything positive for the warbird movement but promote his name and brand and that has done nothing except get people to learn what a Bell X-1 is.
Again, remember that being disliked, or even hurting the warbird movement, does not prevent a person from being included. They simply have to have made an "impact".
However, you seem to suggest that he hasn't even done
that, so for the time being I won't add him to the list.
As an aside, could you mention a specific time when he insulted the warbird community? Since its reception is overwhelmingly positive, I am genuinely interested in the few times it has been put down.
Elwyn wrote:
Would Moon Spillers be important enough to make the list?
If you think so. That is one unique name, I might add.
Iclo wrote:
The Salis family in France to have owned and developped one of the nicest flying museum at La Ferté-Alais, starting collecting and saving planes before WWII, long time before the warbird movement started.
Can't say I've seen a suggestion from Europe outside of the UK yet, so good thinking.
On that note, whomever is responsible for Flug Werk, Meier Motors, Hangar 10, the Luftwaffe Museum, the Auto & Technik Museum Sinsheim, the Musée de l’air et de l’espace, the Central Air Force Museum, the Belgrade Aviation Museum, and the Brussels Air Museum would probably also be eligible.
bdk wrote:
Can you create another thread of "Self-Important Warbird People" and put my name on it?
needle wrote:
Looked through all the pages to this thread, and I didn't see any mention of the creator/benefactor of one of the largest "flying/flyable" warbird collections in the USA........James (Jim) Cavanaugh.
I meant to include him, but had forgotten. Thanks for the reminder.
ZRX61 wrote:
Anyone mention Col Pay yet?
Could you elaborate on who that is? The name is very vague, and I would like to be able to look these people up if need be.
bdk wrote:
What is the true criteria or requirements to be considered "important"?
Currently, the criteria is "one person on WIX thought they were important". I say that half jokingly. As I mentioned
above, I made the criteria for this list extremely loose so as to not miss anyone.
Given the
idea behind the above criteria, the one type of suggestion I have been rejecting are lists of people that have clearly been submitted without individual consideration as to each person's importance. So, for example, the
posting above that simply linked to the Warbirds of America roster, was rejected. Now, I'm not saying those people don't make the cut, but that they need to be considered on more of an individual basis.
Originally, the criteria for the list I started this thread was "people I thought were important". In comparing my list with the suggestions here, I was just noting that it was focused on only the most prominent people.
The above notwithstandting, there is some more strict criteria for a final list (again, if it ever gets made), but I'm not quite sure what it is yet. I would say founder or important head of a major museum would be one.
bdk wrote:
Is he important?
...but was he important?
Enquiring minds want to know!
You thought they were, so for the purposes of this thread they are!
JimH wrote:
Mac MaCaulley (highest time B-17 Pilot ever)
Important point here.
At first, I didn't know if the Mr. MaCaulley you mention was only a pilot during World War II, afterwards, or both. After a quick Google, I found out he is the pilot for the Collings Foundation's B-17. (The
same article describes him as "a legend in his own right", so I would say that, based on a third-party reference, he qualifies.) However, your mention of being the "highest time B-17 Pilot ever" made me think maybe he was a WWII vet.
World War II veterans that are
only World War II veterans would not make this list. I don't know if this needs to be said, but given all the questions about who qualifies, I figured I should state it. However, if they were significantly involved in the warbird movement after the war as well, they would qualify for inclusion.
marine air wrote:
It's a somewhat unfocused, vague list. Maybe there should be sub-categories; warbird airshow performers, collectors , importers, salvagers, mechanics, restorers, and market builders.
I actually had the idea of different categories before posting here (as noted in my
first post). However, I had not really gotten around to implementing it. The one exception is that I had separated out authors.
Further Mentions- Vince O'Connor
- Bob Hoover
- Tom Friedman
- Al Casby
- Jon Blanchette
- Jim Tobul
- Joe Tobul
- Don Plumb
- Jim Mott
- Brain Baird
- Moon Spillers
- Bill Dodds
- Tom Crevasse
- Gary Norville
- Butch Schroeder
- Bob Cardin
- Art Vance
- Jim Read
- Scott Glover
- Terry Rogers
- Bill Rogers
- Gary Levitz
- Bill Turnbull
- Alan Preston
- Jim Terry
- Rick Garvis
- Peter Hambling
- Charlie Hilliard
- Matt Jackson
- Jason Somes
- Ray Krottinger
- Denny Lynch
- Harry Stenger
- Rob Stuessy
- Robert L. Waltrip
- Tom Gregory Jr.
- Tom "Gumby" Gregory III
- Charles "Tuna" Hainline
- Mike Burke
- Chuck Gardner
- Jim Goolsby
- Frank Hale
- Mac McCauley
- Salis family
Vern Raburn & Walter Soplata, who were already included, were mentioned again.
The new total stands at
291+ people. Although, I must admit that at this point I might be starting to lose track.
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