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 Post subject: Re: Tallichet P-39
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:04 am 
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T J - I don't think that A-26, or what was left of it, even had a nose. It was a completely trashed-out hulk, missing just about everything. I would think that it was the one lost in the fire you mentioned.

There was a 2nd long wooden bay to the east of the one that the B-29 was parked up to. The back of it is seen your pictures. It ran parallel to the western bay I saw. If you haven't done so, go to google earth ground level (2008) and you can look right down the bay, from the north, where the B-29 and A-26 were parked, as well as where all the aircraft and parts were in your pictures. The B-29 was about one-third of the way down the bay from the north end, facing the bay, and the hulk was near the north end near the back of the east bay.

It looks like the east bay, and all three hangars east of it, have been torn down. Its hard to tell if the west bay it still standing. I thought Historic Aerials might answer some questions, but it goes from 1970, then to 1995. Neither view shows any interesting aircraft or parts.


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 Post subject: Re: Tallichet P-39
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:18 pm 
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The last time I sat down with David was in 2005 and one of the question I ask him was could I visit Barstow to look at what was up there. He said sure he told me that he had allot of stuff in the hangers and the airport ask him to cleanup the compound. I do know after Davids death a number of airframes and parts were moved up to Barstow. I haven't scene a recent photo or report of what is still in Chino. Maybe one of our Chino friends could go over and get some photo's (BDK :D )

By the compound, do you mean where the wooden bays in the photos are? If so, there has not been anything sitting outside there for years. I just looked through the Historic Aerials, and Google Earth historic views, and as George says, we can not see anything interesting which has been sitting outside at Barstow for the last 20 years.

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T J - I don't think that A-26, or what was left of it, even had a nose. It was a completely trashed-out hulk, missing just about everything. I would think that it was the one lost in the fire you mentioned.

There was a 2nd long wooden bay to the east of the one that the B-29 was parked up to. The back of it is seen your pictures. It ran parallel to the western bay I saw. If you haven't done so, go to google earth ground level (2008) and you can look right down the bay, from the north, where the B-29 and A-26 were parked, as well as where all the aircraft and parts were in your pictures. The B-29 was about one-third of the way down the bay from the north end, facing the bay, and the hulk was near the north end near the back of the east bay.

It looks like the east bay, and all three hangars east of it, have been torn down. Its hard to tell if the west bay it still standing. I thought Historic Aerials might answer some questions, but it goes from 1970, then to 1995. Neither view shows any interesting aircraft or parts.

So we have an A-26 hulk at Barstow in 1980, and the loss of an airframe in 1987. I still don't know 100% where the fire erupted, if it was around the bays, or in a hangar. The only photo shows the mangled remains of the engine, and a bay in the near distance. Which could be where your hulk was.

I have renamed this thread "Tallichet birds at Barstow" as we have moved far, far away from the P-39 by now.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:46 pm 
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...lost in the findings of the below pic is another fuselage of what appears to be a shiny P-63 nose section. (Lower L/Hand corner).

Any ideas of the whereabouts of this aircraft?? Nice B-26 pic also. Tks in advance. Photo via Wix.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:10 pm 
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According to the photographer's notes, there were 8 P-39 fuselages laying about at the compound that day.

Here are the albums showing what were present in late Oct. 1978. There are some gems there. Enjoy!

Barstow - Daggett Oct. 21, 1978:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/116060956 ... 0354/page3

Barstow - Daggett Oct. 23, 1978:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/130782777 ... 9080144034

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Gems is an understatement - great shots of Bermuda FF-860 and the O-47 - never saw it in NMF/silver before.

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Referring back to an earlier topic in this thread about P-39 Airacobra 42-4949… has it been established where this aircraft is today? I see it has been mentioned as a Russian lend-lease ship that was recovered (abandoned wreck) from Fort Nelson, British Columbia in the early 1970s… during the same recovery expedition (I assume) that brought back the "Million Dollar Valley" B-26s from the same general area. This was not a Russian lend-lease aircraft but one that served the USAAF in Alaska and was being ferried to the Lower Forty-Eight on May 5, 1944 when ferry pilot Lt. Jimmie L. Fields attempted a wheels-down forced landing on the Alaska Highway at Mile Post 441. His gear collapsed but he did a remarkable job given the state of the highway and the mountainous terrain in the area. I spoke to his wife a number of years ago and acquired an image of the wreck on the highway. The airplane had the name "Little Joe" painted on the panels above the exhaust stacks. Also of note is that the aircraft had the red band around the U.S. insignia, a style used post September 1, 1943 for a time. Following the forced-landing on the highway the military trucked the wreck to Fort Nelson where it was likely stripped of usable parts but an interesting side note was that not all of it made it to Fort Nelson. For whatever reason the otter wing sections, belly tank and something that was described at the wing inner section with wheel wells was tossed down an embankment off the Alaska Highway near MP 441. A friend of mine found these things while working on a road crew… he noted the location with the intent of returning with some means to salvage the bits. Time passed and when he returned he discovered that the inner section was gone but he did recover the wing outer sections and belly tank (flattened). I visited him and took a few pictures back in the early 1990s.
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Has anyone seen this film before? I must admit that I wasn't aware of it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3_IkHkhYWw

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I saw the You Tube Video that TJ Johansen posted of the B-29 that got out of Chino during 1976. Where is this B-29 now? It was amazing to see it fly out of there. This didn't end up becoming Fyrtle Myrtle did it? Just curious.
Also in Warbirds Intl. is a picture of a Mustang NL30FF which says it participated in the Soccer War of 1969. Any one know where this Mustang is today if it still exist that is? Thanks in advance.


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