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Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:23 am

I have to believe that they are real photos. If not, that is some fantastic Photoshop work. I could see maybe putting the time in to fake one photo, but three?!!

Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:46 am

This is from these cats site; :supz:

The Harvard or "Texan" as it was also known, certainly did do some operational flying, but its great role in aviation history, is that of the trainer.

North Aviation Inc Company eventually built more than 17 000 of these rugged trainers. The Harvard design is so good and its handling characteristics so impressive, that eventually most of the world's major air forces used it to train their pilots. South Africa was no exception and with the help of the Joint Air Training Scheme, in 1942 we got our share. They were used for ab initio training of all of our airforce pilots up until 1995, giving the SAAF over 50 years of faithful service.

This was the moment many civilians were waiting for. In my specific case, my Harvard passion was kindled at an early age. My home and school were close to Rand Airport and all of my free time (quite a lot in those days), was spent at Rand Airport looking at these noisy birds being flown by "40" squadron members and being serviced on the spot.

The SAAF tenders came out and eventually, after a number of years, I landed up with five of these aircraft, some having come through the tender system, and others having being bought privately. The communal use of Hangar 34 at Rand Airport had brought me into contact with Scully Levin.

One thing led to another, and the obvious outcome was the creation of an Aerobatic Formation Team. Thus, the "Flying Lions Aerobatic Formation Team" was born. Our first hurdle, apart from all the training required for myself, was how the hell we were going to afford to fly a 3-ship team (it later became a 4-ship team!). It was obvious that with fuel costs, MPI's, engine and prop overhauls, tyre replacements, and brake wear and tear (the list never ended), we had to get sponsors! It was paramount to our survival. Our expenses were rising and our pockets were emptying. Academy Brushware (Pty) Ltd was at this stage helping finance, via a sponsorship, a small portion of the costs.

Our first stroke of luck came via Peugeot, who were in the McCarthy Group stable. We were fortunate in the sense that the MD was an ex Air Force pilot himself, and he saw the potential of a Harvard Team and what it could do to promote and market Peugeot. We had a most successful partnership with them from March 2000, and they opened the door for other sponsors to climb on board once they had seen the benefits. Air BP was next to see the feasibility of a 3-ship Aerobatic Formation Team, and they came on board as a sponsor in April 2001. This was phenomenal for us - at last we had sponsors who had met most of our expenses, and at the same time in return received fantastic coverage via media and all the airshows and events that were organised.

During December 2002, Nissan entered into discussions with Peugeot and eventually took over the Peugeot portion of the sponsorship. To date we have been running with the three sponsors and have been very active in the promotion of these companies, namely Castrol Aviator, Nissan and Academy Brushware (Pty) Ltd, and we believe that it has been a success all-round. The Harvard presents beautifully with its great radial engine turning the prop and subsonic speeds generating a large amount of noise, and with smoke emanating from its smoke system, it has found a new role in life.

From trainer to corporate marketing billboard! This goes to show that, with some lateral thinking, there are ways and means of saving our heritage, keeping veteran aircraft flying, and making them pay for their upkeep.

Without our sponsors, these Harvards would not be flying. The aircraft has been adapted from military to civilian life in the New South Africa, and we are enjoying this transition more than anyone is.

My feelings when flying with the Flying Lions Aerobatic Formation Team. My first feeling is one of pride, that I have been accepted and included to fly with professionals who are dedicated in what they do and are driven by a passion for flying, that is powerful and infectious. My team members have given me the feeling of safety. The discipline and level of professional skill that is practiced allows a sense of complete trust to engulf my senses, from our first briefing of the morning, to our de-brief after shows. We are more than just a team - we are a family and "Yes" there are discussions and adaptations to situations like in any family, and it is this that makes for the trust experienced.

....Arnie Meneghelli....

Contact us: phone.: +27 11 827 9220, +27 11 827 9221
E-mail: mendoza@telkomsa.net
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Wow! :D
Robbie

Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:56 am

very cool..wish they more of the wow pics on their site only thing missing is that formation going under a bridge

http://www.flyinglions.co.za/

tony

Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:16 am

If it happens on water, is it still a "ground" loop?

Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:23 am

guess so..but then you wet more than your pants :lol:

tony

Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:28 am

.......merely "deep T-sixed" :lol:

Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:44 am

I LOVE IT! FAN-DAM-TASTIC!
It's going on my desktop, too. (If I can get Mrs. Mudge to do it. He says, sotto voce.)

Mudge the computerly challenged

ps. SwissMustangs...that's very good. :D

Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:13 am

Is the word crazy ok here?Not recomended for long wheel bearing life,hope the engine doesnt cough :shock:what about all that 60w dripping into the lake :? looks cool but count me out !!Thanks Mike

T-6

Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:11 pm

"Not recomended for long wheel bearing life,hope the engine doesnt cough :shock:what about all that 60w dripping into the lake, looks cool but count me out !!"

You sound like my mother.

What AWESOME pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:01 pm

The only thing missing are banner towing hitches and girls on water skis.

Image

Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:36 pm

hey!!! that could bring on an entirely new method of trolling for walleyes here on lake erie!!! i could limit out in a matter of minutes!!

Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:44 pm

What they said: either very brave or very stupid!

Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:40 pm

I find that very stupid. I'Ve seen it done with a Super Cub, but, it doesn't get me high at all.

The day they have an accident doing this, I won't be sorry.

Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:08 am

Crikey, brakes on or off?

Gives a whole new meaning to aquaplaning....

Cheers

Andy

Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:29 am

Those pics look real to me (and totally Bitchin). If you look at their webpage those guys sure don't seem real concerned about wing overlap in their formations (but they sure looks good).
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