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Thanks David

Those pictures and the erection manual I've bought on line will be a bigt help when the time comes.

Here's hoping we can get a piece of our history back home.

Tom H

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Alberta Aviation Museum
Edmonton Aviation Heritage Society

there was 1 in the walter soplata collection in newbury ohio as of 2003. no clue to it's current status.

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tom d. friedman - hey!!! those fokkers were messerschmitts!! * without ammunition, the usaf would be just another flying club!!! * better to have piece of mind than piece of tail!!

Nope, that was a C-82 Packet, the Dollar Nineteen's predecessor...it is almost certainly still at Newbury. I think I may have a shot of it on P'bucket (finally put the remainder of my Soplata pix on there after Walt's passing)...hang on a minute and I'll try and find it...Yep, here it is, the C-82 fuselage pod in the bracken with a Sikorsky Seabat helo hulk for company...



S.

...Here are two C-119s seen in fairly recent times...first, definitely-ex-RCAF N8092 (ex-22103 iirc) at Geneseo NY, where she still resides; and then N8093, a Steward-Davis jetpack conversion wearing a very RCAF-like lightning bolt cheatline at St.Paul, Minnesota, at an airshow about 15 years ago. Both were H&P and the sequential N-numbers, plus the livery, tends to suggest if one is ex-RCAF the other is too...





I seem to recall that NAFMC at Trenton were hunting for an ex-RCAF Boxcar also. If there's an owner out there with more than one...maybe a package deal could be arranged, a la the two ex-Eritrean Fairey Fireflies that came to two Canadian museums in 1995?

S.

Thanks again everyone for the great information...will be hot on the trial next week after dealing with a few ops and long term issues.

Steve T
Thanks for the pics...always love seeing that red lightning bolt.

Tom H

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Alberta Aviation Museum
Edmonton Aviation Heritage Society

There's one at Fox Field in Lancaster Ca with the "Millstones" of Flight Museum which is rapidly becoming part of the local geography as it rots in place. Not sure exactly what the plans are out there, the hangar seems to be used mostly for storing the private aircraft & projects of various museum members rather than actual museum worthy aircraft etc.

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This is what I love about WIX. Always something to learn. I just assumed the lightning bolt scheme was a fire bomber thing. Late 70s at Santa Barbara Air Attack Base.

There are two ex RCAF C-119's at Fort Campbell, Army Base in Kentucky. As of about 5 years ago the second one, now parked next to the pathfinder C-47 still had it's RCAF/ firebombe paint scheme. It is now painted as a USAF model.

I just came across this page showing the planes at Greybull. They have moved the two C-119's and two PB4Y's to just outside of the highway rest area by the airport. There are recent pictures included in the story.

http://fireaviation.com/2014/05/26/clas ... #more-3100

Les

Thanks very much for the update and the link to the pics and information.

Tom H

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Alberta Aviation Museum
Edmonton Aviation Heritage Society

that jet engine had to be 1 of the most 1/2 rigged pieces of kacka doody I've ever seen...... did it really make any real performance results, other than being 1 fugly arrangement asthetically??

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tom d. friedman - hey!!! those fokkers were messerschmitts!! * without ammunition, the usaf would be just another flying club!!! * better to have piece of mind than piece of tail!!

The jet engine made a big difference according to Bob West, he was the pilot of the Flight of the Phoenix C-119 to Africa and in the film. They liked the jet engine so much that it made the flights to Africa and back with the jet installed, it was only removed for the movie. When Hans bought the plane, he had the jet removed and we carried it to Phoenix inside the cargo bay, so as close as I got to flying it with the jet was saying on the checklist, jet disabled.

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