Some Luftwaffe photos

Lightjug · **Posted:** Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:42 pm

I love the camo scheme of the Red 3 109. Never seen that before - very cool.
Actually I have not seen the majority of these - thank you very much for sharing them.

DaveM2 · **Posted:** Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:06 pm

Invader26 wrote:

Juvenile comments like M2 that we could read this in a book are unnecessary. A slightly more adult approach is needed by some.

People who take the time and effort to treat us with photos/articles etc are to be commended. Sharing is caring!

Still haven't cottoned on I see, not surprisingly the person to whom my post was directed 'got it'.

Looks like you have your panties in a bunch about what you 'perceive' as my lack of gratitude for the effort seagull has taken to put the photos up
You seem to have (deliberately) overlooked this part of my earlier post in your attempt to play 'enforcer'- here it is again .....

"My comments are no reflection on the time an effort it takes to post photos"

If you are unable to read what I wrote and understand it, don't keep sniping - that is juvenile and unnecessary.

pjpahs · **Posted:** Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:31 pm

The 19th photo ,in color, Life Magazine shows "Dornier, West Front". What is that? Is it a early DO-17 with BD601 engines , but with the "V" up like an Allison? A Recon model? I'm lost on what it is, not enough to see.

DaveM2 · **Posted:** Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:15 pm

pjpahs wrote:

The 19th photo ,in color, Life Magazine shows "Dornier, West Front". What is that? Is it a early DO-17 with BD601 engines , but with the "V" up like an Allison? A Recon model? I'm lost on what it is, not enough to see.

Possibly a Do-17E, with the inverted V-12 DB600 engines, I think they were to be fitted to the M model, but a shortage in DBs meant they went to Bramos

shrike · **Posted:** Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:45 pm

DaveM2 wrote:

pjpahs wrote:

The 19th photo ,in color, Life Magazine shows "Dornier, West Front". What is that? Is it a early DO-17 with BD601 engines , but with the "V" up like an Allison? A Recon model? I'm lost on what it is, not enough to see.

Possibly a Do-17E, with the inverted V-12 DB600 engines, I think they were to be fitted to the M model, but a shortage in DBs meant they went to Bramos

BMW VI 12cyl V engine - same as used in the He-51, He-70 etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_VI

DaveM2 · **Posted:** Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:55 pm

So E-1s then. Attractive looking aircraft.

CDF · **Posted:** Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:17 am

Invader26 wrote:

Juvenile comments like M2 that we could read this in a book are unnecessary. A slightly more adult approach is needed by some. People who take the time and effort to treat us with photos/articles etc are to be commended. Sharing is caring!

+1

Bf109E4 Wn Nr 0750 Pilot Uffz Heinz Grabow III/JG3 on display Melbourne Town Hall

Private Fox (Melbourne, Vic.) and Private King (Perth, W.A.), inspecting the wreckage of a BF109

lmritger · **Posted:** Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:52 am

CDF wrote:

Invader26 wrote:

Private Fox (Melbourne, Vic.) and Private King (Perth, W.A.), inspecting the wreckage of a BF109

And the award for "Oddest Censorship In A Wartime Photograph" goes to...

Seriously, why on earth would the censor scratch out- sorry, that's not quite right- why would the censor do a half-a$$ job of attempting to scratch out the station numbers and the victory bars? That is very odd to me.

Also, this seems unfortunately relevant to this thread.

Lynn

redvanner · **Posted:** Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:07 am

Picture 22 is mislabeled, it is not a Hs 123 but a Hs 126. Henschel 123 was the last biplane used by the Luftwaffe operationally. Hs 126 was a monowing plane as depicted in the photo.

Hs 123:

Hs 126:

JDK wrote:

............
This:

...is interesting, it's the V1 Storch prototype, though the second to fly, as V2, D-IDVS flew first.

Anyone know what the uniforms of those young chaps is?
............
Regards,

My guess is that they might be NSFK, Nationalsozialistisches Fliegerkorps. After Nazis took over, all former Aero Clubs or Flying Clubs
were unified and had to forward their planes and equipment to NSFK, sometimes only changing painting and changing civilian dress for uniforms. NSFK was (initially) responsible for (civilian) training of glider and airplane pilots. It also was the (parent) organisation of Flieger-HJ, providing trainers, gliders and airfields plus infrastructure.

Michael

groundpounder · **Posted:** Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:47 am

DaveM2 wrote:

groundpounder wrote:

Thanks for taking the time and effort to post those great pictures ! It must really suck to be stuck in New Zealand and have to flip through all of those magazines to see these great shots when we have this great little thing called a computer! Those folks from "down under" or nearby have never been known for being humble, have they? :roll:

Really, and where is the original poster from?? :roll:

If you read my post it had nothing to do with the posting of photos persay - never been too quick on the uptake those Canucks, have they? :wink:

Kinda speaks for itself, doesn't it ? :roll:

.

redvanner · **Posted:** Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:17 am

@JDK: Seems I am right with my guess, have a look here:

and here:

Michael

CDF · **Posted:** Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:49 pm

lmritger wrote:

And the award for "Oddest Censorship In A Wartime Photograph" goes to...

I think you'll find that they were less interested in Wr Nr and more into symbolism back then - Dominion troops (Australia) in the Britain defending the Empire inspect fallen Hunn / Bosche / "Nazi" airplane. The irony of "Gott Strafe Engeland" not being lost on the AM I'd suggest

lmritger wrote:

Seriously, why on earth would the censor scratch out- sorry, that's not quite right- why would the censor do a half-a$$ job of attempting to scratch out the station numbers and the victory bars? That is very odd to me.

Well the other images in the same sequence all show shot down LW aircraft over Britain but there was no info as to where they were taken so I didn't post them - but if you feel like your missing out here they are.....

lmritger wrote:

Also, this seems unfortunately relevant to this thread.Lynn

Well the two AIF blokes are 6th Australian Division who later served with distinction in the Middle East & SWPA battles including

Greek campaign
Battle of Crete
Syria–Lebanon campaign
Kokoda Track campaign
Battle of Buna–Gona
Salamaua–Lae campaign
Aitape–Wewak campaign

CDF · **Posted:** Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:37 pm

well known pic that has appeared in a book

pretty sure that timmy's bedroom has never appeared in a book

CDF · **Posted:** Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:52 pm

JDK · **Posted:** Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:10 pm

redvanner wrote:

JDK wrote:

............
This:

...is interesting, it's the V1 Storch prototype, though the second to fly, as V2, D-IDVS flew first.

Anyone know what the uniforms of those young chaps is?
............
Regards,

My guess is that they might be NSFK, Nationalsozialistisches Fliegerkorps. After Nazis took over, all former Aero Clubs or Flying Clubs
were unified and had to forward their planes and equipment to NSFK, sometimes only changing painting and changing civilian dress for uniforms. NSFK was (initially) responsible for (civilian) training of glider and airplane pilots. It also was the (parent) organisation of Flieger-HJ, providing trainers, gliders and airfields plus infrastructure.

Michael

Thanks Michael, I'd agree with that. An interesting little note too.
Cheers,

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