TIME video on Lake Michigan recoveries

[old iron]

A nice TIME video on the Lake Michigan recoveries is at
http://content.time.com/time/video/player/0,32068,32015456001_1915688,00.html?iid=tabvidrecirc
includes recovery of Dauntless going to WWI Museum in Hawaii.

[Pat Carry]

Thanks Kevin. A good video. Hopefully in the future we will see additional recoveries.

[Chris Brame]

Funny you should mention this - I was at the library today searching through the Chicago Tribune archives with the keywords "Glenview Naval Air Station" and "crash". Dug up a neat article from October 24, 1943 titled "Chicago Flat-top: A Day on the Wolverine". It goes into detail about the day called "Black Tuesday", when one TBF, marked T-8, had an arrestor cable fail and ended up hanging from the port catwalk, a Wildcat blew a tire on landing, the crash boat Lark popped a seam, started taking on water and had to return with all hands baling, and finally a Wildcat marked "F-15" came to grief:

F-15 came in beautifully - a stubby Grumman, like the others, painted sky blue on the belly and ocean blue above. In a moment Lieutenant Rigg waved it off again.
With an ear-splitting roar the Wildcat raced down the deck. Toward the bow something went wrong. The plane veered to the left - tho its rudder was hard right. As it was about to go over the side the pilot attempted a desperate wingover. But he was too low and lacked speed. Before any one could blink the plane had struck on its right wing and was in the water off the starboard bow.

The unnamed pilot was rescued wet but unhurt. Anyone know if a Wildcat marked "F-15" is among the current recoveries?

[camshaw]

any rumors of air corpe crashes up in the great lakes?

[Chris Brame]

Any rumors of Air Corps crashes up in the Great Lakes?

Yes, among others, an O-38 in Lake Huron:

For those of you who forgot about 'Lake Huron' O-38

see

http://www.niagaradivers.com/shipwrecks/sw2007/dt.htm


Also found this reference

"
Shipwreck hunters have made an unexpected discovery in one of the Great Lakes. The team turned up what is thought to be part of the early days of the Air National Guard in Michigan. Shipwreck hunter David Trotter and his team -- several of them from Mid Michigan -- were searching for a new shipwreck on Lake Huron near Oscoda when they spotted a little something on their sonar. What they found surprised even this group of seasoned searchers. A tiny hit on Trotter's sonar would have been dismissed by less experienced searchers as just junk on the bottom. But the instincts and a bit of curiosity of Trotter and his crew kicked in. Putting divers in the water, they made quite a discovery. It was a relatively intact biplane. The canvas coverings on the wings and fuselage were gone and zebra mussels now coated the frame, but there is no doubt about what it was. "It was a rather old airplane," Trotter said. "It was apparently a biplane and had a very large radial engine reminiscent of planes that would have been in service in the '20s and '30s. "They knew it was old and they also realized it was upside down and it had all indications it was likely to be a military aircraft." The mystery is, where did it come from and how did it end up on the bottom of Lake Huron? From looking at video shot by Trotter's crew, aircraft historian Ralph Roberts of Saginaw believes it's a Douglas 0-38. The Michigan Air National Guard flew 0-38s out of what is now Detroit Metro Airport between 1933 and 1941. Some of the pilots trained at Camp Skeel in Oscoda, which eventually became Wurtsmith Air Force Base. But what caused it to go down in Lake Huron?"



Of course maybe it could be this ?
321001 O-19C 31-278 Selfridge Field, Mt Clemons, MI LAC 4 Olds, Thayer S. USA MI Lake Huron, near Camp Skeel, MI