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Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:46 am
TOM WALSH wrote:The owner's name is George Maude, not Meade.
Tom Walsh.
Fixed.
Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:27 am
Thanks for the correction.
There is some evidence that indicates RCAF 1034 is actually a P-40D. It is an H87 model classified as a Kittyhawk Mk. I
This aircraft served in five Squadrons with the RCAF from 1941 until 1946.
It even served for a short time on Annette Island, Alaska, flying in defence of that State during the Aleutian campaign.
Cheers,
Tom Walsh.
Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:29 am
I think that airplane's original wing is on a different P-40 somewhere.
Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:10 am
SaxMan wrote:Was this the P-40 that was found unassembled in its original packing crate in the 1980s?
Can you add some details about this one? I just reviewed WD #5 and none of the entries match this information. Thanks in advance.
Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:46 pm
Was this the P-40 that was found unassembled in its original packing crate in the 1980s?
Never heard of that one. Is that accurate?
Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:30 pm
TOM WALSH wrote:There is some evidence that indicates RCAF 1034 is actually a P-40D. It is an H87 model classified as a Kittyhawk Mk. I
Just to be clear this aircraft is technically not a P-40D. It was a direct purchase British Contract aircraft diverted to Canada, so it can be referred to as either a H87A (Curtiss designation) or Kittyhawk I (RAF and RCAF designation). Since it was not part of the Lend Lease, it would not have carried a U.S. designation. (That being said, there is occasional reference in RAF documents that a Kittyhawk I applied to the P-40D...)
Jim
Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:39 pm
It was closer to the D model than it was to the to the E.
I've seen it listed both ways.
Either way it's a great aircraft for whoever gets it.
Cheers,
Tom Walsh.
Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:08 pm
Warbird Kid wrote:Maybe a swap for this one....

.....and restored to flight?
Chris, that's such a cool idea!
A time capsule machine stays in Canada and another P-40 is available for restoration to the new owners satisfaction.
My vote counts for??? what?
Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:05 pm
Ironically, the P40 in the Canada Air and Space Museum, is actually as much a time capsule as 1034 in Victoria. In fact it retains all of it original structure. 1034 had its wings cut off for it journey in 1946 on a log barge to Salt Spring Island . Another complete wing was sourced and swaped,which I think was orchestrated by fellow P40 owner John Paul.
I have had the opportunity to closely examine the Ottawa P40, and all it's systems are still intact and complete. It of course wears a post war, early 60s paint scheme, which was applied prior to going on display at Rockcliffe.
MRP
Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:58 am
mrp wrote:Ironically, the P40 in the Canada Air and Space Museum, is actually as much a time capsule as 1034 in Victoria. In fact it retains all of it original structure. 1034 had its wings cut off for it journey in 1946 on a log barge to Salt Spring Island . Another complete wing was sourced and swaped,which I think was orchestrated by fellow P40 owner John Paul.
I have had the opportunity to closely examine the Ottawa P40, and all it's systems are still intact and complete. It of course wears a post war, early 60s paint scheme, which was applied prior to going on display at Rockcliffe.
MRP
That's going to throw a wrench into the works claiming that maudes airplane is all original.The serial should be that of the airplane the wings came from.
Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:35 am
MRP[/quote]
That's going to throw a wrench into the works claiming that maudes airplane is all original.The serial should be that of the airplane the wings came from.[/quote]
Eh? First time I have ever heard that line of thought. Wings are interchanged all the time- perhaps taking the serial from the engine would be more appropriate
Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:26 pm
I had read that the wings were replaced, but I was not aware that the Kittyhawk in the Ottawa collection was so original as well. Whoever get the Maude Kittyhawk, I do hope it stays in Canada, and remains in its current condition.
SN
Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:29 pm
DaveM2 wrote:MRP
That's going to throw a wrench into the works claiming that maudes airplane is all original.The serial should be that of the airplane the wings came from.[/quote]
Eh? First time I have ever heard that line of thought. Wings are interchanged all the time- perhaps taking the serial from the engine would be more appropriate

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IIRC that's what the book says.A friends K model had 2 serials on the side of the fuselage back in the 90s.One was the original and after suffering damage at Kelly field they replaced the mainplane dictating a change in serial number.So says the file card on that aircraft.
Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:32 am
hang the expense wrote:DaveM2 wrote:MRP
That's going to throw a wrench into the works claiming that maudes airplane is all original.The serial should be that of the airplane the wings came from.
Eh? First time I have ever heard that line of thought. Wings are interchanged all the time- perhaps taking the serial from the engine would be more appropriate

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IIRC that's what the book says.A friends K model had 2 serials on the side of the fuselage back in the 90s.One was the original and after suffering damage at Kelly field they replaced the mainplane dictating a change in serial number.So says the file card on that aircraft.[/quote]
Interesting, standard practice for the identity to be that of the forward fuse.
Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:17 am
I thought it screwy as well.
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