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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:22 am 
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While working on the TBM today in Hagerstown, I did get the opportunity to snap some pictures of the Hagerstown Air Museum's collection:

Ex-H&P C-119:
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C-82:
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A shot outside the old Fairchild factory building.
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PT-26 and a 1928 Kreider-Resner KR-31
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:25 am 
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PT-19:
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Another PT-19. The lighting conditions inside the building make the USAFM look like you are on the surface of the sun by comparison:
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Wingless AT-6:
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PT-19 #3:
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Fairchild SM-73 Drone:
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Close up of the C-119's nose. The H&P logo is still visible:
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Picture of a good part of the collection:
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Not part of the museum collection, but a well-worn DC-3 was also being stored in the building:
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PT-19:
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Close up of the DC-3. I liked that this plane was dirty and worn rather than looking antiseptically clean:
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Nice photos, thanks

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Very cool, thanks for posting


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Neat! Nice to see a C-82 preserved. Did any USAF Packets have the aux. jet above the fuselage, or was that strictly a civilian mod? You can see the remnants of her old TWA livery..it'd be kinda cool if they repainted her in those markings.

Are any of the PTs fliers, or do they just normally keep the cockpits covered when the hangar is open?

The wife and I actually stopped for the night in Hagerstown on our way home from Udvar-Hazy a few years ago..unfortunately I didn't realize the museum was there. We'll be through that neck of the woods next summer..have to stop in and check it out (and get another addition to my "Aviation Museum Coffee Mug" collection.

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I'm so happy they have a C-82. My father flew them back in the day.

Are there any plans to re-do the C-119's nose to make it look like a US aircraft?

and while I'm on the topic, whatever became of the airworthy H&P C-119 they flew to Africa for Flight of the Phoenix remake?

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Steve Nelson wrote:
Neat! Nice to see a C-82 preserved. Did any USAF Packets have the aux. jet above the fuselage, or was that strictly a civilian mod? You can see the remnants of her old TWA livery..it'd be kinda cool if they repainted her in those markings.

Are any of the PTs fliers, or do they just normally keep the cockpits covered when the hangar is open?

The wife and I actually stopped for the night in Hagerstown on our way home from Udvar-Hazy a few years ago..unfortunately I didn't realize the museum was there. We'll be through that neck of the woods next summer..have to stop in and check it out (and get another addition to my "Aviation Museum Coffee Mug" collection.

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it was strictly a Civilian Mod as fr as I know.

When I was their in 2010 for the airshow, they parked a few of the trainers right in front of our C-123. A few of them were deffinately not airworthy while others were. However, I don't think they fly the ones that were flyable.

Soon they will have a C-123 in their collection as soon as they raise enough funds to bring it back. The 123 is the last of the cargo planes they need. Theirs is currently sitting down in Florida waiting to be fixed up to be ferried.

Their goal is to have one of everything built. It was my understanding, in 2010, they still needed one PT, a F24, and the 123. I'm not sure if they got that last trainer and F24 or not.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:54 pm 
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JohnB wrote:
...whatever became of the airworthy H&P C-119 they flew to Africa for Flight of the Phoenix remake?


The 119 is now with the collection of Hans Lauridsen and is based at Buckeye airport in Buckeye, Arizona. It was flown in a couple of years ago but I'm not sure how close to airworthy it has been maintained.

http://www.air-and-space.com/20100219%2 ... ridsen.htm


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To be honest, I really don't know much about HAM's operations (but I ought to learn). I believe all the PT-19s are fliers. IIRC, I think at least one and possibly two of the three PT-19s are privately owned, but are kept with the rest of the collection.

I know right now the focus is getting the funding to purchase the C-123 and bring it to Hagerstown, so I don't think you're going to see major work on the 119. The C-82 is definitely an interesting bird. From what I recall, the C-82 was once owned by TWA and had the name "Ontos".


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Is the Dc-3 a flyer? If it is, are they hauling cargo or passangers?

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It is a flyer. It's actually a C-47A. I didn't get to look inside, but pictures online seem to indicate that it is still in a cargo configuration. Apparently it was owned by the EAA until 2003 when the current owner purchased it.


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It is a flyer. It's actually a C-47A. I didn't get to look inside, but pictures online seem to indicate that it is still in a cargo configuration. Apparently it was owned by the EAA until 2003 when the current owner purchased it.



Does the owner have any plans to make it into a flyable, ww 2 paint scheme c-47? Either way, I'm happy it's cared for

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Does the owner have any plans to make it into a flyable, ww 2 paint scheme c-47? Either way, I'm happy it's cared for


I really don't know. I know it has been in its "Yukon Sourdough" paint scheme for quite some time, dating back to when the plane was owned by the EAA.


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Steve Nelson wrote:
Neat! Nice to see a C-82 preserved. Did any USAF Packets have the aux. jet above the fuselage, or was that strictly a civilian mod? You can see the remnants of her old TWA livery..it'd be kinda cool if they repainted her in those markings.

Are any of the PTs fliers, or do they just normally keep the cockpits covered when the hangar is open?

The wife and I actually stopped for the night in Hagerstown on our way home from Udvar-Hazy a few years ago..unfortunately I didn't realize the museum was there. We'll be through that neck of the woods next summer..have to stop in and check it out (and get another addition to my "Aviation Museum Coffee Mug" collection.

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it was strictly a Civilian Mod as fr as I know.

When I was their in 2010 for the airshow, they parked a few of the trainers right in front of our C-123. A few of them were deffinately not airworthy while others were. However, I don't think they fly the ones that were flyable.

Soon they will have a C-123 in their collection as soon as they raise enough funds to bring it back. The 123 is the last of the cargo planes they need. Theirs is currently sitting down in Florida waiting to be fixed up to be ferried.

Their goal is to have one of everything built. It was my understanding, in 2010, they still needed one PT, a F24, and the 123. I'm not sure if they got that last trainer and F24 or not.


They would still be short a XNQ-1!!!!


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