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Re: Jet incident at Reno during PRS...

Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:05 am

No foam line, as has been pointed out it's an air hose, I have a few hanging down from one of the garages. I would think it's being used to lift the airplane.

Re: Jet incident at Reno during PRS...

Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:30 pm

sandiego89 wrote:
That red hose in the picture is a line for an air hose. Not a garden hose, not a foam hose. Like the hose you would use to power air equipment or inflate tires/tyres. The giveaways are the color of the line, the air fitting on the tip and the black ball near the end which prevents the hose from retratcting too far onto it's storage reel. Likely used in the recovery effort to get some air into the system.


You are right. I didn't look at the fitting end of the hose and was going by the color. Really you can't go off of color alone as it looks a lot like the 1 1/2" redlines we had mounted on reels on all our 800 gallon booster trucks. I tried to find a picture of one but didn't have time to dig through all the boxes. This is a picture of the sort I'm talking about. The hose is about the same color but the fitting color is different.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vEk3SMFk2-U/T ... r+reel.gif

I do agree, the one in the picture is for the airbags.

Re: Jet incident at Reno during PRS...

Wed Jun 19, 2013 6:44 am

Confirm that, definitely an air hose. Our guys had to use a series of air bags to lift a KingAir that came in without its gear (known ahead of time thankfully) and pump them down so we could tow it off.

ARFF (Aircraft Rescue Fire Fighting) trucks do have handlines if they're necessary, but their primary purpose is to deliver AFFF (Aqueous Film Forming Foam) through turrets mounted on the bumper or roof of the truck. Usually the handlines are for delivering sodium or potassium based dry chemical into sensitive electronic areas of the aircraft--that wouldn't do very well with a couple hundred gallons of water-mixed foam shooting into them.

Sucks that this happened, but I have to admit...looks like he did a great job of getting it on the ground safely after what happened :shock:


-Brandon

Re: Jet incident at Reno during PRS...

Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:27 am

mike furline wrote:
Dave Homewood wrote:Wel done to the pilots.


Aren't these the same guys that caused the problem? :wink:

Wellll,that's racing for ya....Any fender bender you can walk away from is a good day! :drinkers:

Re: Jet incident at Reno during PRS...

Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:39 am

Must have been glad to get down in one piece.
Any informed comment on why did the pictured plane made a belly landing.
Was it concern that lowering the undercarriage would upset what must have been marginal remaining lateral stability or would the damage have precluded lowering the gear due to some system being damaged.

Re: Jet incident at Reno during PRS...

Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:26 am

From what I red: the pilot try to lower the landing gear, but it resulted in a lost of stability during the first seconds of the extension sequence. So he bring the gear up immediately.

From what I heard very often: with a damaged plane/engine: avoid any change of configuration who are not really mandatory, as you could never anticipate what could happen.
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