What's the Story?

ffuries · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:34 am

Third picture down shows the mortal remains of a 4 engine aircraft with what looks like the lefthand outboard prop turning. So what was the aircraft? What's the story behind the carnage? and Is the prop A) still spinning or B) is wind-blown or C) is this just an illusion? Inquiring minds want to know, or at least mine does.

http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp2/frob.html

51fixer · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:01 pm

ffuries wrote:

Third picture down shows the mortal remains of a 4 engine aircraft with what looks like the lefthand outboard prop turning. So what was the aircraft? What's the story behind the carnage? and Is the prop A) still spinning or B) is wind-blown or C) is this just an illusion? Inquiring minds want to know, or at least mine does.

http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp2/frob.html

My guess is C-124.
If the engine was still running and no one could figure out how to stop it. Would have run until out of gas or someone was brave enough to get close to the carb or the wires to the magneto.
You really got to ask about the carnage?

51fixer · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:02 pm

51fixer wrote:

ffuries wrote:

Third picture down shows the mortal remains of a 4 engine aircraft with what looks like the lefthand outboard prop turning. So what was the aircraft? What's the story behind the carnage? and Is the prop A) still spinning or B) is wind-blown or C) is this just an illusion? Inquiring minds want to know, or at least mine does.

http://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp2/frob.html

My guess is C-124.
If the engine was still running and no one could figure out how to stop it. Would have run until out of gas or someone was brave enough to get close to the carb or the wires to the magneto.
You really got to ask about the carnage?

I guess you and I should read the words-
On 27 April 1955, a Douglas C-124C Globemaster, operated by the USAF, landed short of the runway and broke up. Although there were no fatalities, the aircraft was written off completely. Ray White, who served at NRS Frobisher Bay, was on duty when it happened. "I was coming off watch from the HF/DF shack at the north end of the runway and was walking along the runway toward the base where the combined RCAF/RCN barracks were located. Halfway along the runway I could see a large aircraft in the distance, over the water off Frobisher Bay. It was banking to starboard and then straightened out, Now I could see the landing lights. As it approached the runway threshold, the aircraft dipped below the level of the runway, then it struggled to climb to the correct altitude. It almost made it, but the landing gear caught on the very end of the runway and the plane did a cartwheel which tore off the starboard wing. The aircraft then flipped over, broke up into many pieces and caught fire. Since I was nearly a mile distant from the wreckage, there was not much I could do. By the time I got there, emergency vehicles were already in action. A few spectators who also came out to investigate were not permitted to come close to the aircraft. The outboard port engine continued to operate for a day or so before the decision was made to shut off the fuel supply".

Dave Downs · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:09 pm

[quote="51fixerhttp://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp2/frob.html[/quote]
My guess is C-124.
The outboard port engine continued to operate for a day or so before the decision was made to shut off the fuel supply".[/quote]

!!! WOW !!!

robkamm · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:13 pm

must have been a Pratt.

thats crazy.

The Inspector · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:14 pm

robkamm wrote:

must have been a Pratt.

thats crazy.

In Northern Canukistan too-EH

CoastieJohn · **Joined:** Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:37 pm **Posts:** 1380

Small digress....It mentions Chimo in Quebec. That was one of three secret Crystal bases back in WWII. Today it's known as Kuujjuuaq. I've been there Caribou hunting. Pretty cool place up there in the tundra area. Good hunting and fishing too!!

Dan Jones · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:50 pm

Really? One of the Crystal sites - I'd never heard that before. I was in Kuujjuuaq a couple weeks ago with the Herc picking up some fuel. The outfit I work for probably flew you in on your hunting trip.

Dan

muddyboots · **Posted:** Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:56 pm

All right I'll bite. What was crystal?

CoastieJohn · **Joined:** Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:37 pm **Posts:** 1380

muddyboots wrote:

All right I'll bite. What was crystal?

There was Crystal 1, Crystal 2 and Crystal 3. They were part of the Crimson Project designed to get supplies to Europe during WWII. Alot of WWII history up that way. There was also a secret German radio/weather station in Canada then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Route

CoastieJohn · **Joined:** Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:37 pm **Posts:** 1380

Dan Jones wrote:

Really? One of the Crystal sites - I'd never heard that before. I was in Kuujjuuaq a couple weeks ago with the Herc picking up some fuel. The outfit I work for probably flew you in on your hunting trip.

Dan

Safari Nordic was the outfit.

Yup...Kuujjuaq (Ft Chimo then) was one of the three secret Crystal sites.

BTW....Crystal 2, now Iqaluit, I'm pretty sure has air service to Nuuk, Greenland now. The flight orignates in Ottawa>Iqaluit>Nuuk. A cheap way to get to Greenland that doesn't go thru Iceland.

Apologies to the OP for the digress.

Dan Jones · **Posted:** Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:30 am

Coral Harbour on Southampton Island was also part of the Crimson route. Don McVicar talked about surveying that part of the route with an HP Hampden in one of his books ("Ferry Command"?) in 1941 or '42. I'll have to dig it out of the archives and take a look again.

Yes, you can jump on an Air Greenland(?) Dash 8 in Iqualuit now and go to Nuuk. We used to do that sched some years ago with an HS748.

Dan

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