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Re: CWH Lancaster occurrence

Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:50 pm

51fixer wrote:Airplane is safe, People are safe.
It will get looked over and the pertinent info will get be presented to us in time.
Whether it was a failure of structure or a human error it is a time to reflect on what can I do to be safe in what I do.
Nothing gained in throwing mud but everyone of us does things that can go wrong. Whether it is working on Aircraft, driving a car or walking to school. We all make decisions and do things that can cause an accident. That also means we can make decisions and do things that don't cause any problems and we all get to NOT hear about them. This should be our normal life.
Hear's to hoping I don't get to hear about what you do :drink3:


Well stated.

Re: CWH Lancaster occurrence

Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:45 am

At least it landed and it landed all in one piece.

Re: CWH Lancaster occurrence

Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:50 am

darn, I cant find the like button.
I have been on FB too much I guess. :)

Well said Rich, Thanks.

It is good to hear it wasnt worse.
Luckily the outer portion of a wing isnt much more than a fairing in most cases.
But when you make them two different lengths it can be troublesome.

I watched the guys from Cessna remove the outer wing sections of a 560 to ferry it for repairs.
The only restriction was that it could not be flown at night, cuz the lights were gone.

Re: CWH Lancaster occurrence

Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:20 am

Very glad it wasn't more serious, the aircraft and most importantly the CREW are safe, and if it's just the wingtip, sounds as though the biggest headache will be the paperwork, not the metal work.

Well done to the flight crew for a timely and effective response!

Lynn

Re: CWH Lancaster occurrence

Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:01 am

Pardon me kind Sirs. I am but a common groundpounder and I know but little of your lighter than air contraptions. But isn't it considered bad luck when your wing starts flapping up and down while you're in the air?

Re: CWH Lancaster occurrence

Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:18 am

muddyboots wrote:Pardon me kind Sirs. I am but a common groundpounder and I know but little of your lighter than air contraptions. But isn't it considered bad luck when your wing starts flapping up and down while you're in the air?


Sometimes yes. Sometimes no. Aircraft above the rank of 737 do it all the time. :wink:

Mudge the observant :shock:

Re: CWH Lancaster occurrence

Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:42 am

But isn't it considered bad luck when your wing starts flapping up and down while you're in the air?


works for birds!

Re: CWH Lancaster occurrence

Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:39 am

Maybe they ran across a Bf-110 over Toronto who nailed them with the Schrage Musik?

Corkscrew Left!!!!! :drinkers:

Re: CWH Lancaster occurrence

Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:39 pm

Thank you for the many kind comments on the safe landing of our Lancaster yesterday. Flying VR-A was our senior Lancaster pilot, Don Schofield, who has almost 800 hours of flying time on our Lancaster, and a total of 26,000 hours in his career.

In discussions with the Transportation Safety Board, we have proceeded with our internal investigation of the occurrence. Our preliminary examination indicates the outer right wing tip lower attachment bracket failed which allowed the outer wing tip to move in flight. At the present time, further examination to determine mode of failure of this bracket, the proper repair scheme and new inspection criteria for both outer wing tip attachments is ongoing. We have already shared all of our findings with the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight.

Our target date for returning our Lancaster to the skies is for the Hamilton Airshow on June 16 & 17.

Re: CWH Lancaster occurrence

Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:54 pm

Thanks for the update. It is appreciated. :drink3:

Re: CWH Lancaster occurrence

Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:23 am

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Bomber should be back in the air by June

Repairing the Lanc Don Schofield, chief pilot for the Lancaster, checks out damage to the bomber's right wing after an in-air mishap. Schofield and the rest of the crew landed safely on Tuesday.
The Hamilton Spectator/Peter Haentjens
The Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum is hard at work on its Lancaster bomber, pushing to get it back in the air by Father’s Day weekend.

“We think that with two months to go, we’ve got sufficient time to do our work and get it back in the air for the air show,” said museum CEO Dave Rohrer. “That’s our goal.”

The museum is in the initial stages of examining the plane to determine what caused it to malfunction Tuesday during its first flight of the season.

The lower attachment bracket of the outer right wing tip failed, allowing that tip to move around inflight, Rohrer said.

“We’ve got it disassembled and we’re trying to determine the mode of failure,” Rohrer said.

He said both wing tips will be examined to ensure they’re safe for flight. Once a repair scheme for the damaged tip is identified, they will also develop new criteria for inspections that include increasing their frequency.

“There are always different ways that any part can fail, whether it’s on a car or an airplane,” Rohrer said. “It could be a site of corrosion and over time can weaken the part or it might be perhaps a loose bolt or nut.”

The museum has owned the bomber since 1977 and flown it since 1988.

“That’s one good thing,” Rohrer said. “We’ve got trained personnel. We know the airplane.”

The 2012 Hamilton Air Show celebrating the museum’s 40th anniversary will take place Father’s Day weekend, June 16 and 17, at the John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport.

Found it here:
http://www.thespec.com/news/local/artic ... ir-by-june

Re: CWH Lancaster occurrence

Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:24 am

Not really a small piece. Looks over 6 feet in length.
Glad all ended well.

Re: CWH Lancaster occurrence

Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:54 pm

Salute to the crew for bringing her back in one piece.
I would love to hear their story.
:drink3:

SPANNER

Re: CWH Lancaster occurrence

Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:01 pm

SPANNERmkV wrote:Salute to the crew for bringing her back in one piece.
I would love to hear their story.
:drink3:

SPANNER


Actually you can hear Don Schofield, the Lancaster pilot who was flying her, describe the incident in the video at:
http://www.thespec.com/news/local/artic ... ir-by-june

Re: CWH Lancaster occurrence

Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:50 am

Yikes. When I read 'a portion' my first thought was SIX FEET! Glad everybody is safe, I'm sure the tough old bomber took that damage in stride. They saw much over Germany.

Good job on the part of the flight crew.

Chappie
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