New Red Tails trailer

Zachary · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:59 pm

CH2Tdriver wrote:

How about Richard Candelaria from this episode of Dogfights:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg1GbJP0 ... re=related

Looks remarkably like an Extra 300 flying!

Interesting! The two CGI sequences look VERY similar. I wonder if the Red Tail folks "borrowed" the maneuver from Dogfights?

Django · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:32 pm

I noticed the original link posted now goes to the latest trailer, which features mostly P-40s. There are some D Mustangs, but the majority of the footage depicts P-40s.

CoastieJohn · **Joined:** Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:37 pm **Posts:** 1380

JohnB wrote:

I saw the preview on TV last night.
Some rally bad CGI...did you see where the Mustang climbed up, hung on its prop and fell back down like a Pitts doing an areobatic routine? Somehow I don't think Mustangs could or would have done that...(any Mustang pilots out there can ceratinly prove me wrong).

I'd have no idea either if a Mustang could do that. I did watch a hi-performance bi-plane actually hover vertically on it's prop at an airshow just off the deck. It hung there for approx 10 seconds and then transitioned to forward flight. As a career helo person, I had to pick my jaw off the ground when I saw that. I'm sure others may have seen that done before.

Zachary · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:02 pm

Sorry for the off-topic, but that was most likely Sean Tucker you saw doing the hover. The first couple of times I saw him do that, he was very low to the ground. Now he maintains a bit higher altitude.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvXGATdWhEk

SaxMan · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:18 pm

What is sad is that we do have the technology to do CGI really well. For the most part "Dogfights" did have planes operating within believable envelopes. I think the CGI in "Battle 360" was even better. I think their CGI work was far better than what I've seen on the Red Tails trailer. I imagine Red Tails had a far larger budget than either Dogfights or Battle 360 yet came out with what looks like a worse product.

For my money, Battle of Britain is still the standard that aviation movies should live up to. Yes, there were a few hokey effects, but that was the best technology could offer at the time. The rest of the aerial shots still are amazing, even 40 plus years down the road.

Jesse C. · **Posted:** Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:42 am

Lucas talks Red Tails on John Stewart

http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.as ... d=ansent11

CoastieJohn · **Joined:** Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:37 pm **Posts:** 1380

Zachary wrote:

Sorry for the off-topic, but that was most likely Sean Tucker you saw doing the hover. The first couple of times I saw him do that, he was very low to the ground. Now he maintains a bit higher altitude.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvXGATdWhEk

That kind of looks like it. Gutsy flying.

Here is a link to some more trailers for the movie. They're on the right side of the page. There are about 9 of them. Many were just added on Monday.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/red-tails/trailers/

cooper9411 · **Posted:** Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:57 am

Cuba Gooding jr. and Terrence Howard both were on Good Morning America discussing the movie. Cuba Gooding jr. said the movie is like an amusement park ride, but George Lucas did a 2 hour documentary detailing the Tuskegee Airmen which should air on t.v. next week

the330thbg · **Joined:** Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:06 pm **Posts:** 2713

Yehaw!!

Boy those trailors sure do get your heart pumping!!!

Mark D · **Posted:** Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:25 am

I was a bit disappointed in one of the wide angle chase scenes to hear what sounds like giant scale RC models. Some of the .50 cal sounds in that scene from the P-40 could have been done a bit better. Great action, though

Mark D

cooper9411 · **Posted:** Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:39 am

I'll still watch it! :drink3:

Canso42 · **Posted:** Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:03 pm

I just saw the trailer and have read this thread with considerable interest. Before making comments I'd like some historical clarification.
I've always thought the Red Tails were assigned to protect the bombers, job 1. Anti shipping? Ground attack? did they do that? Did they actually ever mix it up with 262's?

Put me in the zealous airplane geek group-and proud of it! However I do like the idea that regardless of how accurate or inaccurate it is, this movie may be the only way many people ever hear of the Red Tails.

What are some good sources of accurate data on this unit? I'm ready to study.

blue skies,
Doug

Steve T · **Posted:** Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:56 pm

Doug--

The close support element of the Tuskegee story is earlier than the bomber-escort phase; both the original "freelance" 99th FS and the 332nd FG were initially tactical units that were later combined to make a four-squadron (99FS, 100FS, 301FS, 302FS) escort group. And yes, they did mix it up once or twice with Me262s near war's end. Not sure how the 262s in the film ended up with all those yellow stripes, though. Have never seen a 262 scheme remotely like it before.

Probably the best book I've seen on the Airmen is a small hardback called "Lonely Eagles" that used to be available at what was then USAFM in Dayton. Probably long out of print, but would be worth seeking out. Very comprehensive info and tons of photos despite the small format of the book. Author's name escapes me but I'm fairly sure it was Robert something...

EDIT--found the book--first published in the late 70s, my copy is the fourth printing, from 1988, I probably acquired it in 1993 at either Dayton or NASM as I visited both that year. Author's name is Robert A. Rose, a former military dentist who was also historian for the Western Region Tuskegee Airmen who published the book.

S.

hstandard4 · **Joined:** Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:46 pm **Posts:** 34

Saw this lady at Costco today.

Her dad was a red tail.

She was in a hurry, so didn't catch his name.

The sweater was pretty cool to a Mustang guy!

Doc

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