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Re: It's 1945 and it's in the USofA

Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:52 am

Did I see a C-119 flying boxcar?

Re: It's 1945 and it's in the USofA

Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:28 am

C-82 Packet

Re: It's 1945 and it's in the USofA

Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:16 am

So what happened to the CONDOR and the German GyroCopters (or whatever thye are with the rotorblades.

I saw the 2 seat 262 (whereever it currently is at) and the AR-234 thats in the NASM.


Mark H

Re: It's 1945 and it's in the USofA

Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:04 am

Beer cans?

Re: It's 1945 and it's in the USofA

Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:42 am

Beer cans.... Tough to say, I thought after the war, can were steel.... Maybe pots and pans.....

Seems like someone should know what happened to the Condor, I never really knew they brought one back....

Mark H

Re: It's 1945 and it's in the USofA

Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:56 am

Pathfinder wrote:The interesting thing about the American planes displayed at Freeman was that they had been captured by the enemy during the war and used in their service, so they qualified as "foreign" aircraft.

Really? I wasn't aware of US aircraft being brought back to the US after capture - are you sure that's not a myth? Most Allied aircraft the Germans had captured was destroyed, damaged or otherwise unavailable by April 1945. And I can't see why they'd bring equipment that was well known back to the US; the point of the FE stuff was technology data, by the war's end, as most of it was no longer a credible threat (i.e. no longer required for threat assessment.)

The B-24 with the early British style fin flashes in (presumably) desert sand colo(u)rs certainly looks like it had been left behind!

The Spitfire in a couple of shots was a technology trade by the British, not 'captured' or 'recaptured'.

Happy to be informed otherwise, of course.
So what happened to the CONDOR and the German GyroCopters (or whatever thye are with the rotorblades.

No Condor. The Junkers Ju 290 'Allies Kaput' was scrapped, as noted earlier. AFAIK, after the pre-war visit by Lufthansa civil Focke Wulf Fw 200 Condor to New York, there was never another Condor in the US. A number survived the war in Europe, but not long after. A couple were used as airliners, IIRC, and a couple more as war prizes, due to their high status users in the Nazi party.

The "gyrocopters" at 4:38 in front of the V-2 and at 5:55 are Flettnter Fl 282 helicopters. There's a passing shot at 6:03 of an even rarer von Doblfoff WNF342 helicopter, powered by tip jets, behind (to the stbd) of the Flettners.

At about 7:30 would be one of the last ever flights by a Ju 88, landing at 8:20.

Nice film!

Re: It's 1945 and it's in the USofA

Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:43 pm

Also spotted, a Henschel Hs-129. Wonder if there are any survivors of the type?

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Great stuff!

Re: It's 1945 and it's in the USofA

Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:02 pm

Regarding HS129s, after checking here: http://www.preservedaxisaircraft.com/

it looks like just a cockpit section left.

Re: It's 1945 and it's in the USofA

Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:04 pm

Outstanding footage!

Re: It's 1945 and it's in the USofA

Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:56 pm

What's up with the handthrown mortor and Spanish tile leading edge on that Lancaster's right wing?

Re: It's 1945 and it's in the USofA

Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:29 pm

next to the Hs129 is a Spitfire sitting under the wing of something. I don't see any Lanc....

Re: It's 1945 and it's in the USofA

Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:18 pm

Invader 26, you're correct but that is still one nasty looking leading edge there. @ first glance I mistook it for a Lanc.
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