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Re: So here's a few questions: flying and static logic

Wed May 11, 2011 2:31 pm

Franklin,
Thanks for the PM.
As I mentioned to Franklin, I forgot to add the O-47 in KS.

Re: So here's a few questions: flying and static logic

Wed May 11, 2011 2:51 pm

Franklin wrote:Pointless to even attempt to respond to you warbird2, HGUCSU or who ever you are. You right, I'm wrong, happy now! ... you have fun with that rope of yours. :roll:

I'm sure I'll piss off warbird2 again, but who cares here ya go.

Thanks for the fun ...... it was a pleasure .... I'm outa here :finga:




Why are you being such a douche to me?

I am not HGUCSU. That is Phil posting as Liberator and he posted under other names before that. I have told you who I am and that has been discussed before. You have not pissed me off at all. I am just trying to help you make a post that is actually clear and to the point. You would get a better response if the original question made sense! All you have done is gone back and edited it and made it make less sense.

I still do not see what you were originally trying to ask and I am sure I am not the only one. Is it which static airplanes I want to see fly? Are you asking if a museum should sell their flyable airplanes and use that money to get more static ones?


But quite honestly, I do not see why are you are being such a dick to me? I thought you said you were leaving?

Re: So here's a few questions: flying and static logic

Wed May 11, 2011 4:36 pm

Lets's try to avoid the personal attacks here...

Re: So here's a few questions: flying and static logic

Wed May 11, 2011 5:13 pm

Franklin wrote:Yanks or POF P-39
Evergreen P-38, P-47, P-40?
Weeks B-26, B-24
POF Raiden
Some of Seattle's Museum of flight aircraft
EAA P-38 as well.
POF P-39 would be a monumental effort. I suspect you'd be better off just building a new one...

Yanks P-39 would be easy to get flying as would most of their other aircraft. They are working diligently on restoring their Helldiver as well which would be cool.

I would love to see Yanks' YP-47M in the air. I used to ride my bike to see that derelict hulk as a kid.

POF Raiden would be nice, but it is such a rare and obscure aircraft that only a few thousand people at best would even know what it is. I just don't think it would make any economical sense to restore that aircraft to airworthy. The P-59 is already pushing the obscurity envelope, but as the first American jet aircraft it would at least be a great educational tool. It would look great in a heritage flight with an F-35.

I agree with Rich on the Corsair racer.

Re: So here's a few questions: flying and static logic

Wed May 11, 2011 5:36 pm

Franklin wrote:What private museum warbird today would you like to acquire and return to flight?

Kermits Mossie & Lancaster...

Re: So here's a few questions: flying and static logic

Wed May 11, 2011 5:37 pm

weeks b-26 and b-24 to FHC would be a real coupe. frankly (no pun) i'd like to see all of MARC b-26s/a-20s in private hands or flying collections

Re: So here's a few questions: flying and static logic

Wed May 11, 2011 5:38 pm

it'd be great to see kermit focus on fighters, and give up his bombers IMHO

Re: So here's a few questions: flying and static logic

Wed May 11, 2011 8:54 pm

FG-1D modified as a racer in Colorado. I'd race it in it's current condition a couple times then return it to stock. I don't believe it actually raced in it's current configuration.


N194G Race #94

1967 Reno : Blew engine on approach.......did not race

1970 Reno: 3rd of 6 in Consolation race

1971 Reno 17 of 17 in time trials....did not qualify

1972 Reno: 5th of 7 in Gold



F2G #74 was sold by the Western Reserve Historical Society (Crawford Museum) and is being restored to flying status.

Kenn

Re: So here's a few questions: flying and static logic

Wed May 11, 2011 9:18 pm

ZRX61 wrote:
Franklin wrote:What private museum warbird today would you like to acquire and return to flight?

Kermits Mossie & Lancaster...


Kermit plans on bringing the Mossie home to Florida after he builds another hangar at Fantasy of Flight. As far as I know, there is no set timeline on this.

Zack

Re: So here's a few questions: flying and static logic

Wed May 11, 2011 9:51 pm

warbird2 wrote:
Franklin wrote: I thought you said you were leaving?

I thought you said you were never posting again after your bosses told you to shut up and quit makig an ass of yourself :lol: Glad you didn't leave. Welcome back.

Franklin, I got your point. I'd like to see another zero or two in the air myself.

Re: So here's a few questions: flying and static logic

Wed May 11, 2011 10:49 pm

muddyboots wrote:
warbird2 wrote:
Franklin wrote: I thought you said you were leaving?

I thought you said you were never posting again after your bosses told you to shut up and quit makig an ass of yourself :lol: Glad you didn't leave. Welcome back.

Franklin, I got your point. I'd like to see another zero or two in the air myself.


I said I would attempt to do better(I think I'm doing a pretty good job) and I said if I continued to participate (which I am trying to do) but either way this has nothing to do with you. So I would appreciate it if you would just leave me alone and stop harassing me.

Re: So here's a few questions: flying and static logic

Wed May 11, 2011 11:21 pm

kennsmithf2g wrote:
FG-1D modified as a racer in Colorado. I'd race it in it's current condition a couple times then return it to stock. I don't believe it actually raced in it's current configuration.


N194G Race #94

1967 Reno : Blew engine on approach.......did not race

1970 Reno: 3rd of 6 in Consolation race

1971 Reno 17 of 17 in time trials....did not qualify

1972 Reno: 5th of 7 in Gold



F2G #74 was sold by the Western Reserve Historical Society (Crawford Museum) and is being restored to flying status.

Kenn

Without dragging out some books, did it race with the current configuration of clipped wings and Engine/cowling/prop setup as it now sits?
Everything I have seen (that I remember) didn't show it in its current configuration.

Re: So here's a few questions: flying and static logic

Thu May 12, 2011 10:57 am

warbird2 wrote:and stop harassing me.

NOt harassing. Just saying welcome back. :wink:

Re: So here's a few questions: flying and static logic

Thu May 12, 2011 12:36 pm

bdk wrote:Yanks P-39 would be easy to get flying as would most of their other aircraft. They are working diligently on restoring their Helldiver as well which would be cool.

I would love to see Yanks' YP-47M in the air. I used to ride my bike to see that derelict hulk as a kid.

POF Raiden would be nice, but it is such a rare and obscure aircraft that only a few thousand people at best would even know what it is. I just don't think it would make any economical sense to restore that aircraft to airworthy. The P-59 is already pushing the obscurity envelope, but as the first American jet aircraft it would at least be a great educational tool. It would look great in a heritage flight with an F-35.

I agree with Rich on the Corsair racer.


Questions bdk: POF's P-39, just how bad off is it? Yanks aircraft, do they ever flying any in the collection or start up engines? Would the POF Val be in a similar situation as your explanation of the Raiden? And maybe I'll say hello at the WIX dinner if I can make it.

51fixer: Thanks for understanding. Sorry for any FUBAR :wink:

JCook: I configured my computer a bit last night. I've been practicing. :wink: :wink:

Re: So here's a few questions: flying and static logic

Thu May 12, 2011 2:44 pm

Franklin wrote:Questions bdk: POF's P-39, just how bad off is it? Yanks aircraft, do they ever flying any in the collection or start up engines? Would the POF Val be in a similar situation as your explanation of the Raiden?
POF P-39 has lots of pop rivets and fiberglass to make it look like a complete aircraft. It is gutted and seriously corroded.

I think Yanks usually runs up the engines in their aircraft upon completion, but I may be mistaken. The engines are run up at the overhaul shop at least.

The POF Val has been under slow restoration for many years to flyable. As a participating type in the attack on Pearl Harbor, I think it has relevancy at airshows. The fact that POF flies their replica Val fairly regularly as do other organizations gives you an idea of its marketability as an attraction.

Again, this is all secondhand as I don't represent either organization.
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