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[Nathan]

Us KC-97 people referred to the C124 as the "Crowd Killer" after a tragic accident hauling troops from R&R between Korea and Japan. We also called it the box the 97 came in! I rode the back of one from the UK to Lincoln NE in 1956 along with 35 mechanics, tool boixes and two KC-97 Quick Change engines. Long, slow, shakey ride. We burned up every time the cabin heat iris opened and froze after it closed. Stopped at the Azores for crew rest and a spent a couple of days at Goose Bay until our Squadron had all passed through on the way to Lincoln. Took off the next morning at max gross and #2 engine dumped all its oil at about 200'. Groaned and roared back to Goose and 8 hours later they had the replacement engine hung and ready for flight. The quickness suprised even the MATS crew and really impressed us. That ground crew at Goose must have changed alot of engines!

A later acquaintance who flew the 124 in MATS told the story of hauling 3 disassembled F-86s to Sidi Slimane(Sp?) Africa. When they called the tower they said they were a flight of 4. Tower called back after a short time saying they only had one C-124 in sight. The 124's reply was "The other aircraft are inside!"

The KC-97 could go nonstop fron the UK to Goose Bay. The 124 had to stop at the Azores for fuel and crew rest. The 124 could haul the out-sized cargo but if it would fit into a C-97, it would get there alot quicker.

Thanks Jack for the interesting stories. I like both the 124's and 97's. But never got the chance to see either fly. Being born in 86. But I am thankful we still have pictures of them and people like you to let us enjoy what it was like.

-Nate

[Nathan]

Us KC-97 people referred to the C124 as the "Crowd Killer" after a tragic accident hauling troops from R&R between Korea and Japan. We also called it the box the 97 came in! I rode the back of one from the UK to Lincoln NE in 1956 along with 35 mechanics, tool boixes and two KC-97 Quick Change engines. Long, slow, shakey ride. We burned up every time the cabin heat iris opened and froze after it closed. Stopped at the Azores for crew rest and a spent a couple of days at Goose Bay until our Squadron had all passed through on the way to Lincoln. Took off the next morning at max gross and #2 engine dumped all its oil at about 200'. Groaned and roared back to Goose and 8 hours later they had the replacement engine hung and ready for flight. The quickness suprised even the MATS crew and really impressed us. That ground crew at Goose must have changed alot of engines!

A later acquaintance who flew the 124 in MATS told the story of hauling 3 disassembled F-86s to Sidi Slimane(Sp?) Africa. When they called the tower they said they were a flight of 4. Tower called back after a short time saying they only had one C-124 in sight. The 124's reply was "The other aircraft are inside!"

The KC-97 could go nonstop fron the UK to Goose Bay. The 124 had to stop at the Azores for fuel and crew rest. The 124 could haul the out-sized cargo but if it would fit into a C-97, it would get there alot quicker.

Thanks Jack for the interesting stories. I like both the 124's and 97's. But never got the chance to see either fly. Being born in 86. But I am thankful we still have pictures of them and people like you to let us enjoy what it was like.

-Nate

[Canso42]

Chuck97, thanks for the update on the XC-99. I thought about it recently and wasn't sure if all the pieces had made it on to the museum or not.

[Edward Sheetmetalhands]

Bump.

Scott, would it be possible to add links to this under the Warbird Registry drop down? I am not seeing an easy way to navigate to it without searching for this thread...

[Scott Rose]

Bump.

Scott, would it be possible to add links to this under the Warbird Registry drop down? I am not seeing an easy way to navigate to it without searching for this thread...

I'll talk with Ryan about it (here's are resident PHP guru) but for now if you goto the board index (look above the classic wings ad) you'll see the root index of the forum and you'll see all the different sections.

[Nathan]

I think the registry is the coolest thing but I have some questions.

Is the registry just for surviving warbirds? I noted there are records of aircraft that once was but include aircraft that have crashed or have been scrapped. Some of the warbird types operated up to the 70's and 80's but were scrapped. Can those be included as well? Examples: such as the C-97's, C-124's, and other cargo types that operated in service in the 70's and 80's during the warbird movement. Since they were around during the warbird movement start up can they be included as well?

Just curious. I'd love to help out with the registry.

[Scott Rose]

I think the registry is the coolest thing but I have some questions.

Is the registry just for surviving warbirds? I noted there are records of aircraft that once was but include aircraft that have crashed or have been scrapped. Some of the warbird types operated up to the 70's and 80's but were scrapped. Can those be included as well? Examples: such as the C-97's, C-124's, and other cargo types that operated in service in the 70's and 80's during the warbird movement. Since they were around during the warbird movement start up can they be included as well?

Just curious. I'd love to help out with the registry.

The registry is for any aircraft that survived military service. Generally this falls into three catagories: aircraft with civil registrations, museum aircraft, other display aircraft (planes on sticks). It would also include aircraft purchased by civil operators but never registered. The registry will indeed cover aircraft that were destroyed or scrapped that meet the above criteria. So an aircraft scrapped after being registered or displayed would be counted, aircraft at AMARC that go straight to a scrapper are not.

If you want to help with the registry, especially with aircraft not listed, just use this template, copy it to a text editor or what have you, fill in the blanks (the red text) and send it to submit 'at' warbirdregistry.org, please only send one aircraft per e-mail and put the aircraft type in the subject line (ie Corsair Bu. 80800 N9876)

Serial #: 00000
Construction #: 00000
Civil Registry: N0000
Model: B-1RD
Name: The name from the nose art, if any
Status: Displayed, stored, airworthy or under restoration
Last info: the last year that info was confirmed for

History:
museum name, city, state, date acquired-last info date

(for example: Newark Air Museum, Winthorpe, Nottinghamshire, UK, ????-2011)

Source(s):
Where the info was acquired. Books, websites, magazines or people should be listed here.

Just fill out the red text with the appropriate information.

Thanks.

[Pat Carry]

I'm surely looking forward to the B-17 registry being updated.

Last edited by Pat Carry on Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.

[Nathan]

ditto,

and I look forward to the lessor know aircraft or handful of types.