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New Section

Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:43 am

I have created a new section (viewforum.php?f=41) for the warbird Registry, this section will be used to post pictures, information and questions on SPECIFIC aircraft for use in updated or expanding the Warbird Registry. I will be creating sub-sections for aircraft types as needed.

Re: New Section

Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:03 pm

great idea Scott!. I will be making many posts there!

Re: New Section

Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:09 pm

...and we will call it Section 8, any improper posts will get one "Discharged" :D

Sounds like a good idea to try to get all the eggs in one basket...much easier to drop that way, er, um, COUNT that way!

Re: New Section

Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:22 pm

Scott, Let's have a C-124 section. Here is the one I crewed at Dover AFB back in the 1960's
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Re: New Section

Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:38 pm

How many 124's survive today? can't be much more than 7 or 8.
Jerry

Re: New Section

Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:25 pm

Jerry O'Neill wrote:How many 124's survive today? can't be much more than 7 or 8.
Jerry


The registry lists 8, but I don't know how complete it is, looks like it's been awhile since Scott last updated it.
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/c124regi ... istry.html

Re: New Section

Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:55 pm

Jedediah Swakhammer wrote:The registry lists 8, but I don't know how complete it is, looks like it's been awhile since Scott last updated it.
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/c124regi ... istry.html
There's one more: 53-0050 at Hill AFB.

52-0994 last flew with the civil registration N86599 and is still listed as such on the FAA register although with a status of "revoked".

Re: New Section

Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:12 pm

There are 9 C-124's remaining. Until just a few years ago there were 10. However, 53-0044 , the 10th one, was painted blue and was was going to be a restaurant at Las Vegas. However it was recently scrapped. I have photos I took of it when we were on the Congo Airlift in the 1960's.

Here are the remaining C-124's:

49-0258 is at the Dover Museum
51-0089 is at the Robbins Museum
52-0994 is at the McChord Museum
52-0943 is at the Sacheon, Korea Museum
52-1000 is at the Travis Museum
52-1004 is at the Pima Museum
52-1066 is at the USAF Museum
52-1072 is at Charleston AFB
53-0050 is at Hill AFB

I have photos of all of them and will post them soon.

John

Re: New Section

Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:51 pm

Chief wrote:However, 53-0044 , the 10th one, was painted blue and was was going to be a restaurant at Las Vegas. However it was recently scrapped.
In 2001, but when you're as old as I 10 years can be considered 'recent' I guess.
:lol:

Re: New Section

Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:19 pm

Chief wrote:Scott, Let's have a C-124 section. Here is the one I crewed at Dover AFB back in the 1960's
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My Uncle was a Flight Engineer on a -124 at Dover back then. He never talked about his job.

Re: New Section

Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:18 pm

I put together a fairly comprehensive list of the surviving MiG-17 (Lim-5/Lim-6/F-5/J-5) survivors a couple of years back during our Lim-6bis recovery in Connecticut. I haven't seen this list anywhere, ever, and I've collected photos of them all as well. Its just been sitting in my MiG folder collecting dust ever since. Let me know and I can forward you the spreadsheet. Might keep you busy for a while!

C-124 at The Goose, winter 1959/60

Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:29 pm

This was a live one, back in winter of 1959/60. Taken at Goose AB, Brrr, Labrador. Lots of heavies passed through. Another older Lady I got to cozy up to.

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A Little larger than the C-124, the XC-99

Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:01 pm

The XC-99, parked just offbase, in a field by old Kelly AFB. She was finally moved back onto Kelly, for safe keeping, but was parked by, a bunch of hugh maintenance stands. Needless to say, a wind storm came up, blew the stands into the plane, left wing tip damaged, left leading edge damaged, fwd fuselage almost ripped off, radome torn off. How safe can it get? Shes been disassembled, and is now at the AF Museum, Dayton, for restoration.

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Re: New Section

Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:51 pm

Us KC-97 people referred to the C124 as the "Crowd Killer" after a tragic accident hauling troops from R&R between Korea and Japan. We also called it the box the 97 came in! I rode the back of one from the UK to Lincoln NE in 1956 along with 35 mechanics, tool boixes and two KC-97 Quick Change engines. Long, slow, shakey ride. We burned up every time the cabin heat iris opened and froze after it closed. Stopped at the Azores for crew rest and a spent a couple of days at Goose Bay until our Squadron had all passed through on the way to Lincoln. Took off the next morning at max gross and #2 engine dumped all its oil at about 200'. Groaned and roared back to Goose and 8 hours later they had the replacement engine hung and ready for flight. The quickness suprised even the MATS crew and really impressed us. That ground crew at Goose must have changed alot of engines!

A later acquaintance who flew the 124 in MATS told the story of hauling 3 disassembled F-86s to Sidi Slimane(Sp?) Africa. When they called the tower they said they were a flight of 4. Tower called back after a short time saying they only had one C-124 in sight. The 124's reply was "The other aircraft are inside!"

The KC-97 could go nonstop fron the UK to Goose Bay. The 124 had to stop at the Azores for fuel and crew rest. The 124 could haul the out-sized cargo but if it would fit into a C-97, it would get there alot quicker.

Re: New Section

Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:56 pm

Jack Frost wrote:Us KC-97 people referred to the C124 as the "Crowd Killer" after a tragic accident hauling troops from R&R between Korea and Japan. We also called it the box the 97 came in! I rode the back of one from the UK to Lincoln NE in 1956 along with 35 mechanics, tool boixes and two KC-97 Quick Change engines. Long, slow, shakey ride. We burned up every time the cabin heat iris opened and froze after it closed. Stopped at the Azores for crew rest and a spent a couple of days at Goose Bay until our Squadron had all passed through on the way to Lincoln. Took off the next morning at max gross and #2 engine dumped all its oil at about 200'. Groaned and roared back to Goose and 8 hours later they had the replacement engine hung and ready for flight. The quickness suprised even the MATS crew and really impressed us. That ground crew at Goose must have changed alot of engines!

A later acquaintance who flew the 124 in MATS told the story of hauling 3 disassembled F-86s to Sidi Slimane(Sp?) Africa. When they called the tower they said they were a flight of 4. Tower called back after a short time saying they only had one C-124 in sight. The 124's reply was "The other aircraft are inside!"

The KC-97 could go nonstop fron the UK to Goose Bay. The 124 had to stop at the Azores for fuel and crew rest. The 124 could haul the out-sized cargo but if it would fit into a C-97, it would get there alot quicker.


Thanks Jack for the interesting stories. I like both the 124's and 97's. But never got the chance to see either fly. Being born in 86. But I am thankful we still have pictures of them and people like you to let us enjoy what it was like. :)

-Nate
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