The B-17D "Swoose" now has her 'bathtub' in place!

Misterg97 · **Posted:** Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:16 am

Somwhere along the line I came up with this ... I am thinking about digitizing it for embroiderey ...

can anyone identify it as to squadron, group, etc.

Thanks

agent86 · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 3:57 am **Posts:** 926

John Dupre wrote:

mustangdriver wrote:

The last I had heard the museum planned to restore the aircraft to a point that it would be OD over gray, carry the Swoose artwork, and retain most of it's bomber configuration. I don't believe the Swoose art work currently on the aircraft is the original. I think it was repainted while sitting outside.

I think that is probably the best compromise. The airplane will look like a bomber more than a transport and will be the Swoose. I actually opened the crew door and looked inside during a tour of the Garber Facility and was surprised by how extensive the executive interior was. (Honest, that door hinge was already broken!) I wonder if they will get Swoozy Kurtz to come to the dedication?

Swoozy Kurtz? Swoozy Kurtz?
how many people do you think know who the he-l Swoozy Kurtz is? I think both of them are not airplane fanatics.I have no problem with her being there as long as she is escorted by Pee Wee Herman,Fabio and Alf.

agent86 · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 3:57 am **Posts:** 926

John Dupre wrote:

mustangdriver wrote:

The last I had heard the museum planned to restore the aircraft to a point that it would be OD over gray, carry the Swoose artwork, and retain most of it's bomber configuration. I don't believe the Swoose art work currently on the aircraft is the original. I think it was repainted while sitting outside.

I think that is probably the best compromise. The airplane will look like a bomber more than a transport and will be the Swoose. I actually opened the crew door and looked inside during a tour of the Garber Facility and was surprised by how extensive the executive interior was. (Honest, that door hinge was already broken!) I wonder if they will get Swoozy Kurtz to come to the dedication?

Swoozy Kurtz? Swoozy Kurtz?
how many people do you think know who the he-l Swoozy Kurtz is? I think both of them are not airplane fanatics.I have no problem with her being there as long as she is escorted by Pee Wee Herman,Fabio and Alf.

Russ Matthews · **Posted:** Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:19 pm

agent86 wrote:

Swoozy Kurtz? Swoozy Kurtz?
how many people do you think know who the he-l Swoozy Kurtz is? I think both of them are not airplane fanatics.I have no problem with her being there as long as she is escorted by Pee Wee Herman,Fabio and Alf.

Well, let's see .. Swoosie Kurtz is only the daughter of Col. Frank Kurtz, the pilot who flew 40-3097 through much of WWII, first dubbed it "The Swoose," and was twice responsible for the continued existence of this historic B-17D. I'm sure, given the strong family connection, the NMUSAF would be honored for her to take part in any rededication ceremony of the plane that is, in point of fact, her namesake.

warbird1 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:25 pm **Posts:** 2760

TBDude wrote:

agent86 wrote:

Swoozy Kurtz? Swoozy Kurtz?
how many people do you think know who the he-l Swoozy Kurtz is? I think both of them are not airplane fanatics.I have no problem with her being there as long as she is escorted by Pee Wee Herman,Fabio and Alf.

Well, let's see .. Swoosie Kurtz is only the daughter of Col. Frank Kurtz, the pilot who flew 40-3097 through much of WWII, first dubbed it "The Swoose," and was twice responsible for the continued existence of this historic B-17D. I'm sure, given the strong family connection, the NMUSAF would be honored for her to take part in any rededication ceremony of the plane that is, in point of fact, her namesake.

I hope she does attend the dedication ceremony. Swoosie Kurtz is as much a part of the history of the "Swoose" as Margaret Polk is to the "Memphis Belle".

BTW, Swoosie is appreciative of the history of her father's airplane. Many years ago, I watched her talk about the "Swoose" on Leno's show. She had very positive things to say about the airplane and her father.

agent86 · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 3:57 am **Posts:** 926

Well once again I have been put back into my box and had the lid closed .I had no idea that Swoozy Kurtz had any connection to aviation history.I am currently standing in the corner of my kitchen and my mom wont let me move for another hour.I Hate Standing in the corner! Does this mean that Fabio.Pee Wee Herman and Alf cant go to the party? just wunderin? I apologize to Swoozie and all the rest of the Kurtz clan.

warbird1 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:25 pm **Posts:** 2760

agent86 wrote:

Well once again I have been put back into my box and had the lid closed .I had no idea that Swoozy Kurtz had any connection to aviation history.I am currently standing in the corner of my kitchen and my mom wont let me move for another hour.I Hate Standing in the corner! Does this mean that Fabio.Pee Wee Herman and Alf cant go to the party? just wunderin? I apologize to Swoozie and all the rest of the Kurtz clan.

I'm sure that Swoosie Kurtz would be much more willing to accept your apology if you spelled her name correctly!

agent86 · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 3:57 am **Posts:** 926

so I mis spelled Swoosie ,well if you were following this post,you will see that I was only following Mr. John Dupre's lead.so I blame him,gosh darn it, its all his fault,he cant spell either.please dont tell my mom cause I dont want to stand in the corner again.

aeroeng · **Posted:** Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:30 am

You guys crack me up.

aeroeng

SaxMan · **Posted:** Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:12 pm

Was there any relation between Frank Kurtz and Ray Kurtz? Ray was also a USAAF B-17 pilot in the MTO (IIRC). He later on to fly about seven B-17 missions for the fledgling Israeli Air Force in 1948...including the first bombing mission over Cairo.

JDK · **Posted:** Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:47 am

"There ain't no Sanity Kurtz!"

(Sorry.)

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