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Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:37 pm

(RIP to the 6 individuals killed in this accident) photo credit to
http://coloradowreckchasing.com/I think any time I see a picture of a pranged B-24 I will always think of Gary Austin.
I miss you Gary. Though we never met in person, nor spoke on the phone, we exchanged PM's a little and the way you posted on WIX made me feel like we were all close friends of yours.
I apologize to anyone who may be exercising any emotions from my mention of Gary, but I don't plan of forgetting him.
Peace,
David M
Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:08 pm
Nope, Gary would not be happy about damage like that, but. . . he'd have 'er back up and flying in about three days!
And, yes, RIP and Thank You to those brave individuals who perished in the crash.
Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:21 am
You got that right. That photo should be in every flight training manual under
'why you shouldn't touch the brakes on take-off'
Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:34 am

yep i don't think Gary would like that(rip to the 6 on board)some one said awhile back that they'd raise a glass when the next "Gary wouldn't like this"thread was was started consider it raised

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i don't intend to forget him either
Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:14 am
I don't know.
I see it as an opportunity. There are more B-24 noses out there on display than B-17 noses.
Gary could've fixed that easily!
Jerry
Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:47 am
There was a (somewhat common) plaque that hung in our squadron when I was a USAF student pilot. Paraphrased it said that "A little piece of each of goes with the troop that rides one in. That pilot was the sum of every interaction he'd ever had and, in his final moments, bet his life (and crew) on an action that he believed was the right one." RIP to six brave souls who thought they were doing it right and lost ... and to our own Gary who I miss seeing here when I log in.
From a pilot perspective, I believe the caption, but I have a hard time imagining how such a low-lung bird like the B-24 could end up so violently in the vertical. Maybe a berm or obstacle caused the sudden snap? From any of our B-24 experts - do the flaps look as if they're in a takeoff setting? Are there any other clues hiding in the photo?
I'm not critiquing, just trying to be a safer pilot. I witnessed a Lear depart the end of a runway one day after landing and losing FADEC control of its reversers. Long story short, the spool up for reverse was providing forward thrust and the crew just couldn't troubleshoot it fast enough. Wheel brakes were of little help. They barely survived despite major injuries. After taking that in, I've decided that overriding the gear handle and dropping an airplane in its belly might be a valid option when faced with off-roading. I don't know that I'd think of that one in the heat of the emergency without having thought of it beforehand - for what it's worth.
Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:03 pm
oz rb fan wrote::partyman: yep i don't think Gary would like that(rip to the 6 on board)some one said awhile back that they'd raise a glass when the next "Gary wouldn't like this"thread was was started consider it raised

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i don't intend to forget him either
Hey...that was me that said that! Guess I'm going to grab a glass@ Two o'clock, schmoo o'clock!
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