B-26 Carolyn wreckage

12XU2A3X3 · **Posted:** Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:52 pm

btw, i am now really into the Carolyn II idea.

hell, i want to see the birds at PASM and MAPS fly. but all i get to decide is what's for dinner.

Pogo · **Posted:** Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:58 pm

Ouch. Thanks. If anybody cares to talk about the crew that was lost, perhaps it would be nice to bring them back to the front once again.......?

12XU2A3X3 · **Posted:** Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:03 pm

there is a memorial to her, the two caf pilots, and the three british volunteers in tx. would love to hear about them

ZRX61 · **Joined:** Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:16 am **Posts:** 2308

I knew Chris & Collin, they were volunteers at TFC. Never should have been invited along on a check ride...

Robbie Stuart · **Posted:** Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:38 pm

LET THIS ONE GO! Those of us that lost friends do not wish to go through this again! Take this somewhere else. Let them Rest In Peace!

rwdfresno · **Posted:** Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:53 pm

NTSB reports for those who were looking,

http://ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?id=FTW95FA406&rpt=fa

http://ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?id=FTW95FA406&rpt=fi

Cherrybomber13 · **Posted:** Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:06 pm

Here is a shot of the memorial if some of you haven't seen it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kensaviation/2894311842/

12XU2A3X3 · **Posted:** Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:47 pm

sorry, i guess i was thrown by the name. i was looking for an place to exchange information about former service aircraft.

JDK · **Posted:** Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:27 pm

12XU2A3X3 wrote:

sorry, i guess i was thrown by the name. i was looking for an place to exchange information about former service aircraft.

...And in that there are some hot-button topics, which are easy to press unintentionally. Don't get offended, or take it personally, though.

Plenty of other things to play with, and it all works better if we respect each other's no-doubt very-manly-feelings.

Welcome to the forum, and I look forward to having another contributor here!

Cheers,

12XU2A3X3 · **Posted:** Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:33 pm

sorry for being flip. thrilled to be here!

hang the expense · **Posted:** Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:59 pm

Pogo wrote:

Ouch. Thanks. If anybody cares to talk about the crew that was lost, perhaps it would be nice to bring them back to the front once again.......?

The two Englishmen were very good friends of mine and were moving to the US as business partners.Colin had two young children at the time where Chris was quite young and no children.All our hearts were broken that day.There is a nice memorial bench to Colin and Chris at Duxford.I would love to see a picture of it.Can anyone help with that?Thanks,Tom.So very sad.

PinecastleAAF · **Joined:** Fri May 25, 2007 4:50 pm **Posts:** 1028

Here is a youtube video interview of the two surviving crews from the Marauders that made the torpedo attack at Midway. One of them is the man that flew down the flight deck of the Akagi after dropping his torpedo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSm055a0 ... re=related

12XU2A3X3 · **Posted:** Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:50 am

great vid. interesting how politics played into things even then. the air force really tried to disavow the marauder.

Jase · **Posted:** Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:02 am

12XU2A3X3 wrote:

great vid. interesting how politics played into things even then. the air force really tried to disavow the marauder.

You can blame Harry Truman for that. He never forgot how Glenn L Martin did an endrun around the Truman Committee which was trying to stop production of the B-26 due to its high loss rate. As it turned out, it wasn't the fault of the airplane so much as it was poor training and maintenance practices. Martin got Jimmy Doolittle to declare that there was nothing wrong with the Marauder, and Doolittle did some very public flying on single engine that proved it. Truman nursed that grudge until he became President, and then he did something about it.

Warbird Kid · **Posted:** Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:13 pm

PinecastleAAF wrote:

Here is a youtube video interview of the two surviving crews from the Marauders that made the torpedo attack at Midway. One of them is the man that flew down the flight deck of the Akagi after dropping his torpedo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSm055a0 ... re=related

Would be nice to see Kermit's B-26 painted in the Midway / Akagi Marauder scheme.

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