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Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:40 pm
wow that is just so cool. Amazing what they did during ww2. I just wonder what we could do today.
Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:37 pm
pontiac58 wrote:wow that is just so cool. Amazing what they did during ww2. I just wonder what we could do today.
Not nearly as much. Too much bureaucracy. Besides we would have to farm the work out to the Chinese.
There are two large aircraft in the first picture. The one on the right appears to be a B-23 Dragon. What is the other aircraft? Don't tell me that Capelis showed up again.
Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:55 am
Cubs wrote:
There are two large aircraft in the first picture. The one on the right appears to be a B-23 Dragon. What is the other aircraft? Don't tell me that Capelis showed up again.
The second airplane looks a lot like a C-46 or maybe the CW-20?
The AAF attempted, with some success, to camouflage an entire airfield during the war. Scribner Army Air Base in eastern Nebraska had all the buildings and runways camouflaged for a time. The methods were not unlike what Lockheed used, but on a LOT smaller scale!
Scott
Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:10 am
there are pictures of boeing plant two in seatle with similar camo treatment in world war two in the book "legend and legacy" the history of the boeing company.
Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:58 am
Amazing isn't it? There's a couple in there I haven't seen before.
Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:13 pm
Of course, having the "Farm" or the "Residential Neighborhood" right next to the runway in the middle of an industrial area looked a bit odd! It would make it hard to target "High Value" parts of the plant.
Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:11 pm
To me it looks as if the first pic in this thread was taken after the camo was taken down, and you can see the remnants of the painted roads and buildings from pic #2, which then apparently covered the runway as well, on the taxiway in pic #1. It could be that at the time the camo was put up, the surrounding area wasn't as developed as it was by the time of pic #1, so the camouflaged area didn't stand out as decidedly more rural/suburban than the surroundings as might appear.
If you Google Earth the Burbank airport, this site (approach end of 33) is still easy to find. It is now a group of parking lots that still reflect the shape of the plant. The street at the right edge of the first pic is Empire Ave. Some of the service roads are still recognizable. The planes at the upper left edge of pic #1 appear to be where the Budget Rent-a-car is now.
August
Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:47 pm
About thirty years ago I taped a documentary from TV called "Hollywood and the Home Front" - it has some good newsreel footage of the Lockheed plant camouflage, as well as scenes of miniature houses and outbuildings in the hills around L.A. that slid apart to reveal antiaircraft guns!
Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:46 am
I found one of the aerial photos I have of the Scribner AAF facility. This field has the standard triangular layout of three 7,000 foot runways and a small cantonment area. Scribner was initially a Satellite Bombardment Field and later served as the home station of the 36th Fighter Group during the latter phase of the Group's training.

Notice that the runways have been painted to blend in with the surrounding crop patterns. The hangar had a red barn and silo painted on the doors and the other buildings were camouflaged accordingly. I've spoken with a couple of aviators who said it was really well done and more than one transient crew missed the field the first time they flew over. The camouflage detachment changed the colors of the camo to suit the seasons.
Scott
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