1941 Historical Aircraft Group Update
Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:55 pm
Hey all,
Our museum has seen a flurry of activity in the last few weeks, Operation "Clean-House" as some call it. We have been busy cleaning out all the useless junk/ garbage from the hangars (such as old furnaces, car frames/ engines, etc.) Most of this stuff was sold as scrap to bring in some extra dollars, some was sold to interested members, and the rest was just tossed (don't worry, nothing valuable
.) Our main hangar is undergoing some well needed TLC, lights are finally being hung, heating will soon be installed, and the floor is getting re-surfaced! The first half of the floor should be done soon (maybe tomorrow), and the rest will be done before you know it. I will post pictures once things start coming together, and in a couple weeks, the A-26 will be coming in 
I'll keep you posted
- Austin Hancock
1941 H.A.G Volunteer
Our museum has seen a flurry of activity in the last few weeks, Operation "Clean-House" as some call it. We have been busy cleaning out all the useless junk/ garbage from the hangars (such as old furnaces, car frames/ engines, etc.) Most of this stuff was sold as scrap to bring in some extra dollars, some was sold to interested members, and the rest was just tossed (don't worry, nothing valuable
.) Our main hangar is undergoing some well needed TLC, lights are finally being hung, heating will soon be installed, and the floor is getting re-surfaced! The first half of the floor should be done soon (maybe tomorrow), and the rest will be done before you know it. I will post pictures once things start coming together, and in a couple weeks, the A-26 will be coming in I'll keep you posted
- Austin Hancock
1941 H.A.G Volunteer
Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:04 pm
Sounds awsome! I thought the runway wasnt long enough for an A-26? Will be cool to eventually see the A-20 and its sucessor next to one another!!!
Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:20 pm
You have to clean house once in awhile. The last time for me was when POND moved to AZ.I did hang on to a wood prop off a PT-22 that did a nose over. Great prop but miss the museum. Good luck to everyone. P.S. Miss PONDS A-26's ALSO.
Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:08 pm
Warbird Kid wrote::D Sounds awsome! I thought the runway wasnt long enough for an A-26? Will be cool to eventually see the A-20 and its sucessor next to one another!!!
If you can get a Connie onto the field, you can get an A-26. I'm sure there's plenty of room.
Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:08 pm
Warbird Kid wrote::D Sounds awsome! I thought the runway wasnt long enough for an A-26? Will be cool to eventually see the A-20 and its sucessor next to one another!!!
I agree 100% on that one
As for the runway, we got 5000' worth of it, I think I once heard the '26 needed 4,000 ft. to take-off at gross weight. We might be safe 
Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:10 pm
seaknight15 wrote:You have to clean house once in awhile. The last time for me was when POND moved to AZ.I did hang on to a wood prop off a PT-22 that did a nose over. Great prop but miss the museum. Good luck to everyone. P.S. Miss PONDS A-26's ALSO.
Exactly! I can't believe the difference already, everything is really looking good
Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:59 am
Should be no problem for an A-26.
Vern Rayburn brought his A-26, "Rude Invader", to the show back in the late 80's and also I think Jeff Ethell arrived there once in the one that is currently static at the museum in Elmyra.
"Rude Invader" was donated just a few years ago to the Carolinas Aviation Museum in Charlotte.
Jerry
Vern Rayburn brought his A-26, "Rude Invader", to the show back in the late 80's and also I think Jeff Ethell arrived there once in the one that is currently static at the museum in Elmyra.
"Rude Invader" was donated just a few years ago to the Carolinas Aviation Museum in Charlotte.
Jerry
Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:48 am
Rude Invader and the NWM's first A-26 N26WB operating off the grass. NWM's second Invader N237Y was trucked in from Buffalo and then trucked out to Elmira. It was never flown by the NWM or Wings of Eagles.
Jim
Jim
Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:50 am
Any new news about the next airshow? What there thinking about planning? Hope the "No Theme" theme hasn't been thrown out yet.
Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:04 am
Warbird Kid wrote:Any new news about the next airshow? What there thinking about planning? Hope the "No Theme" theme hasn't been thrown out yet.
That's a good question! I haven't heard anything yet, but I'm assuming that there will be no theme this year except WWII Aviation
. The themed airshows have been money hogs so far, I'm not expecting another one this year.
- Austin Hancock
Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:09 am
AirJimL2 wrote:Rude Invader and the NWM's first A-26 N26WB operating off the grass. NWM's second Invader N237Y was trucked in from Buffalo and then trucked out to Elmira. It was never flown by the NWM or Wings of Eagles.
Jim
Thanks for the correction. I forgot they were two different birds!
Jerry
Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:52 am
I flew the CWH A-26 for 9 years. I would operate off a 4000 ft paved strip.
I wouldn't taxi on grass. Props are only 13 inches off the ground
As for operating? lots of power on take off. Landing is 3 point, approach is 120 kts over the fence, poor braking would make for an interesting roll out.
I've been to airshows at HAIG and watched B-25's with full brake lock-up, slide past center stage.
The last A-26 that landed there had reversing props...big difference.
i think the grass strip will be the problem. Conditions have to be very hard compact dry ground to operate.
The nosewheel is the weakest point, the flight manual restricts pax sitting in the glass nose for T/O or landing.
That being said, fighter speed with the ability to take 6 of your closest friend for a ride.
I wouldn't taxi on grass. Props are only 13 inches off the ground
As for operating? lots of power on take off. Landing is 3 point, approach is 120 kts over the fence, poor braking would make for an interesting roll out.
I've been to airshows at HAIG and watched B-25's with full brake lock-up, slide past center stage.
The last A-26 that landed there had reversing props...big difference.
i think the grass strip will be the problem. Conditions have to be very hard compact dry ground to operate.
The nosewheel is the weakest point, the flight manual restricts pax sitting in the glass nose for T/O or landing.
That being said, fighter speed with the ability to take 6 of your closest friend for a ride.
Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:19 am
Wonder if it would be possible to reconstruct the grass strip at Geneseo much like how Kermit did his B-29 capable runway at Fantasy of Flight? This would probably put a few minds to ease as far as strength and capability.
Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:44 pm
Warbird Kid wrote:Wonder if it would be possible to reconstruct the grass strip at Geneseo much like how Kermit did his B-29 capable runway at Fantasy of Flight? This would probably put a few minds to ease as far as strength and capability.
Of course it's possible, all it takes is money!
They might need 6,000 feet for a B-29. I think the CAF's protocol for take off and landing the B-29 is 6K feet minimum.
But HAG could probably use that money elsewhere for the time being.
Jerry
Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:21 pm
Unnecessary since there were no B-29s in 1941.