British Panel Fastener Help Needed

[Ken Dwelle]

Does anyone know of a source for these, or even the proper name? It belongs on a Sea Fury but was possibly used on other types.

Thanks,
Ken

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[retroaviation]

Have you asked the Sanders brothers if they've got any? I figured since they're in your neck of the woods, it might be the closest source. Nelson Ezell may have some, but I don't know how many. I have a few myself, but only a few. I kept them as spares for whenever we'd find any bad at Reno or at airshows. I would personally not have enough to supply y'all for your project though. Sorry.

Gary

[Ken Dwelle]

Gary-

I did ask Dennis, they are short of them as well. I'm actually pretty well fixed with the exception of the longer ones which go on the belly panel under the engine. Need 17 of them, if you have any to spare, I'd be happy to trade you short ones, which are used in every other location of the Sea Fury, gun bays, hell hole cover, etc.
here's a photo of the short vs long. The long one is 1 5/8":

Ken

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[retroaviation]

I think I really need to keep the few that I have, Ken. I hate to be stingy, but as you know, when you need a spare, it's nice to have them laying around.

I know it's considered taboo to not do things all original, but would it be possible to just replace the Limey fasteners with Dzuses? I've worked on a Fury or two where that was done and it sure is nice.

Gary

[Ken Dwelle]

I completely understand Gary, had to ask. It could be done with dzus but I'm starting to gain an appreciation for British engineering... I'll keep looking.

Ken

[retroaviation]

.....but I'm starting to gain an appreciation for British engineering....

Ken

Ken, step away from the Sea Fury! Go outside and get some fresh air!!! British engineering is NOT something to be appreciated, but rather, it should be converted.

Gary

[The Inspector]

Lord Lucas, Prince of darkness-'Gaskets aren't designed to keep oil in, just to provide a chaffing buffer between parts'-British compters are easy to spot, they have a puddle of oil under them-give an Englishman a piece of metal and he'll do something silly with it

[JDK]

give an Englishman a piece of metal and he'll do something silly with it

Whereas a Scot will start an industrial revolution.

[avenger2504]

give an Englishman a piece of metal and he'll do something silly with it

Whereas a Scot will start an industrial revolution.

Ahh so nice to have Scottish and English ancestry

[ZRX61]

I completely understand Gary, had to ask. It could be done with dzus but I'm starting to gain an appreciation for British engineering... I'll keep looking.

Ken

You can get medication to prevent that

[Rossco]

You can get medication to prevent that Wink

Yeah it,s called a Mustang

[ausflyboy]

Aren't those called CAMLOC fasteners? A quick google search should bring up everything you need to know

Cheers,
Chris

[51fixer]

Aren't those called CAMLOC fasteners? A quick google search should bring up everything you need to know

Cheers,
Chris

No
These have an exterior shell with a couple notches around the flange that is on the surface. Inside there is a spring, a bar that is drilled and threaded, and a screw.
To fasten you must unscrew the middle screw some. Press this screw in against the spring. Then rotate the exterior shell 1/4 turn so hopefully the bar is in alignment with the mating part in the cowl former. Then you tighten the inner screw to pull up on the fastener to pull everything together.
The British seem to make everything have 2-3 steps involved.
The P-51 side cowls, below the exhaust take a couple minutes to install and fasten the dzuzes.
The side cowl on the Spit takes 5 minutes if your lucky, usually about 10 minutes and on occasion, 15 or so.
Don't ask about the top piece as it is one piece from exhaust, over the top, to exhaust or the bottom.
You can spend an hour or more just putting the cowling on.
At least the Sea Fury has cowls that hinge open covering the engine so you don't have as many of the wondrous fasteners to deal with.
Rich

[Rossco]

Took me a while to remember them..I think this is them
http://images.google.com.au/images?gbv= ... er&spell=1

[AvroAvian]

Sorry Rossco, they're not Oddie fasteners. I have only ever seen them on Sea Furies so far. Great when they are new and working, but when they worn and tired, they're a pig. Murphy's Law dictates that you will always have trouble doing the last one up.
Good luck trying to find replacements Ken!