Warbird Information Exchange

Group,

My question is, who gets to decide who has permission to dispose of aircraft and who does not. Who gets to decide 25-30 years after the fact, the original person did not have the right to dispose of an aircraft.

So now the Air Force decides that the person who authorized the McClellan AFB sale of P-51's did not have the right, and decides to seize those aircraft?

Is the Air Force now adopting the Navy Plan, where they own everything forever yet have no libability? Will they attempt to seize other aircraft?

Maybe we need to provide more support to the CAF on the P-82, and get the AF slapped by the courts to stop this nonsence.

Laterrrrr
Avn-Tech

How I understand it is that the NMUSAF is only claiming back to Vientam era, and not all airframes. The reason I was told (and I will leave out names) a certain group asked for several airframes from the USAF that were being retired. These aircraft were flown to this group, and left as is. This group displayed them for a while and thensold the airframes to a foriegn country that had then started using them as their frontline aircraft. As for the P-82, that is a much different story. There is much more that went on then was ever fully posted in WIX.

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Chris Henry
EAA Aviation Museum Director

Well hell if that's what they are worried about, then cut the engine mounts and the spars. It's not like these birds were ever going to fly again.

But don't cut up the entire aircraft!!! That seems criminal to me and makes zero sense.

Yeah, and the dog ate my homework


That one I believe. But I'll bet that a lot of the "much more" involves way too many big-ego-overrides-common-sense scenarios, likely on both sides, and ends with a USAFFU.

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Steve Turner, USAF aircraft refueler 54+ years ago.

Notice I did not say frontline fighter aircraft just frontline aircraft. Also I can buy into that last comment.

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Chris Henry
EAA Aviation Museum Director

Just let them know, as the "proper" owner, that they owe for tiedown and fees at the airport for the past howevermany years, and the balance is due, or the aircraft will be subject to mechanic's lein and Sherriff's confiscation and sale as abandoned property...

Robbie

[quote="Robbie Roberts"]Just let them know, as the "proper" owner, that they owe for tiedown and fees at the airport for the past howevermany years, and the balance is due, or the aircraft will be subject to mechanic's lein and Sherriff's confiscation and sale as abandoned property...

Robbie[/quote]

Now that's the best idea i have heard in a while.

HA - if it comes to a terrible end I agree with Robbie - DEMAND tie down and storage fees for the past several years - lets see, $5 per aircraft per night for the past 3 years would "only" be $10K and spliting that with the airport would still go a long way in your other projects Gary!

Tom P.

forget $5.00 per night. do it the goverment way, something like $50.00 per night. plus a little more for checking on them. plus a little for answering the odd question now and then. run the bill up on them, that's what they do to us. ANYTIME THEY CAN.

My curiosity has the better of me. Do we even know what triggered all this to begin?

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F-84F Simulator Project
www.f-84f.org

A phone call made in good faith...

Yes. I asked them about getting some tires for the F-105, so that we could more easily tow it to a hangar.

Gary

You might as well have asked for a nuclear trigger for the bomb it was carrying!

At least that way you could have talked to them face to face, from behind bars perhaps!

Apparently this happened and is no secret, at least to some. It shouldn't be an issue to give us the details of this "transfer and subsequent sale".

Tell us the rest of the story and name names or we call B.S. on this Chris !

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"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass..."
Admiral Isoruku Yamamoto

Is that story about C-130's that they got in trade?

Mike