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Jack Cook · **Posted:** Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:53 pm

165 Squadron RCAF S/L Winskill DFC commanding 1942

k5083 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:23 pm

RCAF Sqn 165 did not exist in 1942. It was formed in 1943, and was a transport squadron based in British Columbia.

This would be RAF 165 Sqn, perhaps.

August

Jack Cook · **Posted:** Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:39 pm

If that's true it's packed with US/Canadian RCAF pilots inc the Warren brothers. The guy on the prop is Texan Allen Bunte RCAF who later scored 3 kills in the 4th FG.
Standing 2nd from left is Harold Pederson of Oregon later KIA in the 52nd FG. 3rd from right standing is Joe Kelly later a a 71 ES pilot.

k5083 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:36 pm

Yes, that's not too surprising. Canadians were well represented in RAF units throughout the war, even after they got their own squadrons and wings going. All RCAF units overseas after 1941 had squadron numbers in the 400-449 range. The high 400s were allocated to the Australians.

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JDK · **Posted:** Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:41 pm

165 Squadron history.

http://www.raf.mod.uk/history_old/h165.html

Jack Cook · **Posted:** Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:30 pm

Pederson and the Warren brothers downed a DO-217 during the Dieppe Raid

Simcoe Warrior · **Posted:** Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:05 pm

TriangleP wrote:

Some Americans joined the RCAF, trained there and were flying and fighting in Europe before Pearl Harbor, later to be absorbed into the USAAF.

True, and a good American pilots also stayed with the RCAF out of a sense of loyalty to their fellow airmen, even though they could join the USAAF, be with their own countrymen and make more money as well.

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:58 pm

leave it to the royals to have wicker chairs for a pic :wink:

k5083 · **Posted:** Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:05 am

Simcoe Warrior wrote:

TriangleP wrote:

Some Americans joined the RCAF, trained there and were flying and fighting in Europe before Pearl Harbor, later to be absorbed into the USAAF.

True, and a good American pilots also stayed with the RCAF out of a sense of loyalty to their fellow airmen, even though they could join the USAAF, be with their own countrymen and make more money as well.

Partly out of loyalty to Spitfires also!

August

TOM WALSH · **Posted:** Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:20 pm

Between May, 1942 and May, 1945, 3,797 Americans transferred from the RCAF to an American Military Service of their choosing.

The remaining 5,063 of the estimated 8,860 U.S. Citizens who had joined the RCAF, elected to serve out their time in a Canadian uniform.

I have written over the past three years, 24 separate stories on this subject which have all been published in Air Classics Magazine.

I know there are some out there who do not like this publication, but, at least they have given me the platform to tell these untold stories.

Right now, I am looking for a Publisher to role the first 24 into book format.

Cheers,

Tom Walsh.

Jack Cook · **Posted:** Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:23 pm

PO Pederson with his shattered armored glass (hit by DO-217 gunner) after doing a DO-217.

Pederson relaxing by his Spit V SK+L.

warbird_patrick · **Posted:** Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:32 am

By any chance does anyone have any pictures from the RCAF NO.1 Service Flight Training School?

gary1954 · **Posted:** Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:29 pm

TOM WALSH wrote:

Between May, 1942 and May, 1945, 3,797 Americans transferred from the RCAF to an American Military Service of their choosing.

The remaining 5,063 of the estimated 8,860 U.S. Citizens who had joined the RCAF, elected to serve out their time in a Canadian uniform.

I have written over the past three years, 24 separate stories on this subject which have all been published in Air Classics Magazine.

I know there are some out there who do not like this publication, but, at least they have given me the platform to tell these untold stories.

Right now, I am looking for a Publisher to role the first 24 into book format.

Cheers,

Tom Walsh.

Good Luck in producing a book Tom, It should be a great read

. I used to like Air Classics, bought it every month

until the magazines publisher burned me :shock:

. I never bought another Air Classic or Challenge publication since and refuse to, have refused to since 1976. Recently I did read articles in Air Classics Magazine, written by Dik Shepherd

regarding his study of the B-17, but his articles were all I read in those publications he mailed to me. I refuse to open my wallet to a publication/Publisher that kept MY personal property following a writen Promise to return MY personal property, even after I followed the written directions on how to get my photos back :roll:

. That was 33 years ago. Will I let it go? NFW. Return MY Property, and I'll consider buying a Challenge Publication. :roll:

Not

Jack Cook · **Posted:** Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:45 pm

ditto but because he threatened to sue me (and Scott) :shock:

gary1954 · **Posted:** Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:00 pm

Jack Cook wrote:

ditto but because he threatened to sue me (and Scott) :shock:

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread.....no more about the Club that Jack and I belong to,... we now return to the subject matter of the Canadians....void where prohibited By Law, Batteries not included, and some restrictions apply.

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