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Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:27 pm

Rick H, you knwo I mean thtat all in the spirit of joking around. That was how I took your post.

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Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:29 pm

Replace NMUSAF and NMNA with CAF and that statement is also true...

and somewhat deserved :idea: :twisted: :? :santa: :pirate

Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:29 pm

Chris, it is all in fun ! Doesn't mean I didn't have a tape measure..... :lol:

Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:05 pm

Back to the subject at hand.. 8)

Here are a few pics I shot of the F-82 at the NMUSAF back in '03 or so. It was after the aircraft shuffle when they opened the Cold War gallery, but before they put new barricades up..so I took the opportunity to get a bunch of closeup detail shots.

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Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:33 pm

Jack Cook wrote:
Replace NMUSAF and NMNA with CAF and that statement is also true...

and somewhat deserved :idea: :twisted: :? :santa: :pirate


ok Jack...

Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:37 am

Steve,

Here are pictures of the CAF P-82 just a few days before it was stolen by the USAFM. As you can see, the quadrants were not installed. I saw them installed in 1984 when I got to sit in the plane but I didn't take any pictures. I've got a pilot's manual somewhere that shows what you're looking for. If I find it I'll scan it.

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Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:01 am

RickH wrote:Nope, wasn't shocked at all. You see, a dead static airplane that will never fly again doesn't need continual financial support to keep it in the air. Also while Shoo Shoo Baby is a static memorial to those who flew her, 909 allows loved ones to directly honor their heros by keeping one flying !

While I looked at everything, I was on a short timeline. It is an impressive museum, and well it should be. I had to spend some time measuring the door and the exhibits that have been strategicly placed around the 105 in an obvious attempt to thwart our efforts. But I figure I can snake it out of there, maybe I'll use the Navy towbar, and the USAF tug we got out of the USAF DRMO !


Is this some new news on the 105? Is a famous flying organization finally getting one, or is this in reference to the old 105 deal which went to Evergreen?

Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:35 am

We're still working the problem. In the meantime an alternate suitable candidate needs to be identified. :roll: :wink:

Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:51 am

Gary does anyone have an idea what happened to the Air Farces instruments and parts out of the P-82? Hopefully they are in secret storage till when the appeal is won. I know not likely, but hoping anyway.

Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:27 am

Obergrafeter wrote:Gary does anyone have an idea what happened to the Air Farces instruments and parts out of the P-82? Hopefully they are in secret storage till when the appeal is won. I know not likely, but hoping anyway.


I don't know. I would guess, however, that they are in some of the boxes that are in the crates of parts that went with the airplane.

Gary

Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:58 am

Steve wrote:I didn't mean to open a can of worms.

All I wanted to know is how the throttle and prop controls were laid out.


Steve


Wouldn't they look like an F-51 cockpit?

Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:55 am

the330thbg wrote:
Steve wrote:I didn't mean to open a can of worms.

All I wanted to know is how the throttle and prop controls were laid out.


Steve


Wouldn't they look like an F-51 cockpit?


Doubt it, the F-82 was based on the XP-51F, so the arrangement would probably be quite different. Our library had a copy of a pretty good title devoted to the F-82 series but it disappeared from circulation after I returned it :(

Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:09 pm

the330thbg wrote:Wouldn't they look like an F-51 cockpit?
Only if it had two engines!

Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:17 pm

If you can get Bert Kinzeys book "in detail and scale vol 51(P-51 Vol 2)

There is a couple of pics of the Betty Jo that show the throttle quadrant, not close up but good. In a similar picture of an "H" model it looks like its the same quadrant so if you know what one of those looks like, i.e. Mike Coutches H than you should be set :wink: .

Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:32 pm

I'm glad to hear that nothing has been done to the P-82 since it's arrival from Midland. It's my understanding that they promised to not do anything to it until after the appeal, so it's good to hear that they are standing by what they said. I know a lot of people were worried they would take saws to the spars as soon as it got there.
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