Spitfire spinner color?
Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:18 pm
What is the color of this spinner? I would like to incorporate it into my truck resto-mod!
Sorry the color sucks but I was working with an old camera. The color is a very pale green. It is also the color on the tail band.
Sorry the color sucks but I was working with an old camera. The color is a very pale green. It is also the color on the tail band.
Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:38 pm
The correct name for the colour is Sky Type S
Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:46 am
Where does this 'Type S' come from?
Paint spec stencils on RAF WWII period refer to 'S' and 'C' for Synthetic and cellulose respectively.
The 'Ministry of Aircraft Production Colour Standards Specifications DTD 83A, DTD 308, DTD 314, DTD 420A and DTD 517', an original period copy to hand, refers the colour as 'Sky'.
The undersides of the Seafire 47 are specified the same colour as your Mk V Spitfire spinner - Sky.
PeterA
Paint spec stencils on RAF WWII period refer to 'S' and 'C' for Synthetic and cellulose respectively.
The 'Ministry of Aircraft Production Colour Standards Specifications DTD 83A, DTD 308, DTD 314, DTD 420A and DTD 517', an original period copy to hand, refers the colour as 'Sky'.
The undersides of the Seafire 47 are specified the same colour as your Mk V Spitfire spinner - Sky.
PeterA
Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:38 am
In some early documrents it is named Duck Egg Blue but most common official name is Sky. Type "S" mean "smooth" so that was semi gloss finish.
http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2008 ... w2-colors/
http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2008 ... w2-colors/
Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:32 am
[quote="Mgawa"] Type "S" mean "smooth" so that was semi gloss finish.
No sir! PeterA was exactly right. S for Synthetic.
No sir! PeterA was exactly right. S for Synthetic.
Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:42 am
For those interested, the discussion continues...............
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=89848
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=89848
Sun Apr 12, 2009 1:00 am
In this moment I moving all my things and most od documentation is not here so I am not capable to give proof for my info. Anyway- all colors was syntetic and every color could be order from manufacturere as 'S' or 'smooth'.
Cheers
Cheers
Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:15 am
Last evening I thought I would refresh my knowledge and re-read the Paul Lucas work on this topic.
Summarising - coincident with introducing a new underside colour for day fighters, 'Sky', to replace the 'Night'(Black) and White, work had been undertaken to improve the surface finish of paint for aerodynamic efficiency. Various methods, flatting between coats, increasing the gloss elements and so on were considered including reducing the particle size of the colour pigments. The latter was deemed the most effective compared with time consuming prep with an unskilled workforce. These new paints were specified as Type S, smooth if you like, and applied to all colours. Instructions to units and manufacturers to change the undersurfaces to 'Sky, Type S' was interpreted by some, Vickers Supermarine included, to refer to a colour, a new colour, when in fact it was a colour and constituent requirement...and the Vickers paint drawings reflect that. Period Ministry of Aircraft Production colour chips refer to the colour as 'Sky'.
PeterA
Summarising - coincident with introducing a new underside colour for day fighters, 'Sky', to replace the 'Night'(Black) and White, work had been undertaken to improve the surface finish of paint for aerodynamic efficiency. Various methods, flatting between coats, increasing the gloss elements and so on were considered including reducing the particle size of the colour pigments. The latter was deemed the most effective compared with time consuming prep with an unskilled workforce. These new paints were specified as Type S, smooth if you like, and applied to all colours. Instructions to units and manufacturers to change the undersurfaces to 'Sky, Type S' was interpreted by some, Vickers Supermarine included, to refer to a colour, a new colour, when in fact it was a colour and constituent requirement...and the Vickers paint drawings reflect that. Period Ministry of Aircraft Production colour chips refer to the colour as 'Sky'.
PeterA
Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:33 am
Just one note- this paint is still manufactured today and it is in BS381c chart but also it is manufacturer by industry of paint for other purposes, like furniture. Some of them still use name Duck Egg Blue. This is somehow older info so check out present state if any is interesting.
Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:58 am
There are two different contexts here. They are both right, in the first the 'Type S' suffix does indeed refer to the smoth finish of the paint. In the second the reference by Peter is to the suffix S or C actually stencilled on to aircraft after the DTD stores reference for the paint to identify the appplied finish as synthetic or cellulose paint (in order that the same type of paint can be used for repairs or re-finish).Glyn wrote:Mgawa wrote: Type "S" mean "smooth" so that was semi gloss finish.
No sir! PeterA was exactly right. S for Synthetic.
Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:29 am
Who manufactures this color and is it a urethane?
Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:01 am
You think on 2K urethane?