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Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:05 pm

thanks also for the clarification as well

Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:37 pm

I had the idea that it was NMUSAF asset painted as it flew with the RCAF.

So...was the C-21 helo still there?



Here's the Voodoo last year...looked pretty sad.

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Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:20 pm

I think she was moved too. The following aircraft have been removed to the best of my knowledge: F-4, F-105, F9F, T-28, F-86, C-47, HH-21, RF-84, and now the F-101. I would hope that they could find a home for the C-119, and the HU-16 as well.

voodoo

Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:28 pm

For gods sake at least close the tail chute door! She does look a little weathered. Interesting to see the ealier RCAF markings.

Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:41 pm

yeah at one time she was a nice airplane to look at compared to the others. it's just a shame they were never taking care of as nice as his car collection that's in the building behind it! :x

Re: PATE aircraft

Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:34 am

captjohn wrote:I am Vice-President and Director of Aircraft Maintenance of the Historic Aviation Memorial Museum in Tyler, TX, located at 150 Airport Drive.

We obtained the F-4, T-33, and F-105, from Pate. We repainted both the F-4 and T-33. Paint is not holding up on the F-4, so it may be stripped and repainted again in the future. F-105 was partially repainted after the Air Force Museum removed the radio-active panels, and we replaced them.

We do not have the F-101. It was ours for the taking, but we didn't have the money to move it. I don't know where it went.

See our website: www.tylerhamm.org


John D Mustard
Captain (retired UAL)


John,

I live here in Tyler and have been to the Museum several times. What do I need to do to become involved with the restoration of museum's aircraft?

Connery

Pate 101

Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:09 am

I'll e-mail Mark Miller and see what happened to the VooDoo. We didn't want it, and actually tried to get one from Lackland that was nicely painted so I didn't have to do a repaint on the Pate one. The NMUSAF vetoed that, and said if we were to get one, it would be the Pate aircraft. We nixed that, so they apparently gave it to someone else.

JDM

Re: Pate 101

Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:20 am

captjohn wrote:I'll e-mail Mark Miller and see what happened to the VooDoo. We didn't want it, and actually tried to get one from Lackland that was nicely painted so I didn't have to do a repaint on the Pate one. The NMUSAF vetoed that, and said if we were to get one, it would be the Pate aircraft. We nixed that, so they apparently gave it to someone else.

JDM


huh. :? :( :x :shock:

Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:59 am

RickH wrote:All of the National Guard 101s came out of service around 1984. The 147th at EFD-Houston turned theirs in in the 84-85 timeframe. I saw the Canadian marked F101 at Pate shortly after that. There were Canadian F-101s flying long after that.


The last flight of a "Texans" Voodoo (or any ANG Voodoo for that matter) was on August 8, 1983.


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Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:45 am

I just drove by the Pate and saw the tail of the 101.... looks like it's still there...

gunny

Fri Jan 02, 2009 4:09 pm

RickH wrote:Thanks for the clarification, Jim. I put it down as RCAF so as not confuse it with the ORIGINAL CAF ! :D


The original CAF was formed on 19 September 1918, in the UK. It was a Section within the Overseas Military Forces of Canada. The prefix "Royal" was permitted in 1924. The initials have since been copied by some other organizations. :wink:

Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:06 am

Welcome to the WIX captjohn! Thanks for your time at the restoration hanger last month. I posted some shots of the HO4S and A-1E here from my visit.

Does anyone know where the Pate C-47, CH-21, and T-28 went? I know where the others went but not these three birds...

Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:42 am

The original CAF was formed on 19 September 1918, in the UK. It was a Section within the Overseas Military Forces of Canada. The prefix "Royal" was permitted in 1924. The initials have since been copied by some other organizations.


You make a simple comment and there's always someone who takes it to the extreme !! :lol:

Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:07 pm

RickH wrote:
The original CAF was formed on 19 September 1918, in the UK. It was a Section within the Overseas Military Forces of Canada. The prefix "Royal" was permitted in 1924. The initials have since been copied by some other organizations.


You make a simple comment and there's always someone who takes it to the extreme !! :lol:


My motto is - if it's worth doing, it's worth doing excessively and compulsivly. Like my web site, for instance. :D

Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:16 pm

So CaptJohn, Did Mr. Miller reply to your E-mail about the disposition of the 101. We might be interested in bringing it to our museum in Az. We tried to get one of the ones in Gila Bend but the city put a coat of paint on them per the USAF museums directives and were allowed to keep the planes.
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