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Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:26 am

"So tempting with the key just Hanging there"

And a wide open field in front of it!! Just a 15-20 knot crosswind to contend with!

YES! I was keeping a VERY close eye on my 10 year old who LOOKS with his fingers! HE got to go out in the tail gun position in Yellow Rose, my BULK would have upset the CG and THAT would not have been pretty! We all had a great time (too short) and would love to go back sometime.

Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:58 am

The door is already open, that's why the key is hanging there! But you are right, come to think of it, it is somewhat tempting!!!

The T-33 belongs to Robert Weeks. Was acquired from A&P School. In
Lightning Lancers markings. "Cowpony 44" on the nosegear doors was the call sign of Maj. Ron Iberg (Iceberg to us these days), who is one of those pilot's pilots. He has flown most jet types in civilian hands, as well as Tora and the P-39.

I had my first ever airplane ride in the tailgunner's seat of Kate 310 with
Ron at the controls, in 1976, on the way home from being commissioned a colonel in the Confederate Air Force during Airsho '76, at the tender age of 18.

The Kate is CAF replica Kate 310. The one that had two gear problems
recently (well, one was a pilot problem). The repairs have been made, and it's in annual. The markings were taken from a Zero in the Signal Publications book, but I was told that it was "theoretically" possible that the squadron could have had a Kate or two with those markings. So said Bill Powers.

Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:38 am

More Pics of Cowpony 44
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Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:05 pm

skymstr02 wrote:ACF-50, and other anti-corrosion compounds do not have any effect on intergranular corrosion.
Intergranular is inherent with the metalurgy and the heat treat process, so keeping moisture away will not prevent this occurance.


Roger that.. it helps to try...... :wink:

Lynn
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Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:52 am

The intergranular corrosion possibly would have gone without being noticed until it was too late, if it weren't for Gary. I believe this is one of the most worthwhile things the CAF has done in years, hiring Gary to do the job he is doing. Our fleet is now on the way to becoming the best it's ever been, and the safest too. Thanks, Gary, for all you do!

Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:13 am

You're welcome. :)

Gary

Thu Jan 01, 2009 3:00 pm

" I believe this is one of the most worthwhile things the CAF has done in years, hiring Gary to do the job he is doing. Our fleet is now on the way to becoming the best it's ever been, and the safest too. Thanks, Gary, for all you do!"

I completely agree!! I'm looking forward to Gary coming out to see us, believe it or not... :)

Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:03 pm

Kinda like taking castor oil, just hold your nose and swallow. Gary's really not that bad.

Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:55 pm

Wow. I've been called and compared to lots of things, but I can honestly say that is the first time I've been compared to Castor Oil. Thanks....I think. :lol:

Gary

Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:17 am

retroaviation wrote:Wow. I've been called and compared to lots of things, but I can honestly say that is the first time I've been compared to Castor Oil. Thanks....I think. :lol:

Gary


Saw your ride (PA-32) in Kerrville Monday with Steve driving it with Donna... :wink:

Lynn

Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:26 pm

The inside of the left wing of the Yellow Rose looks clean in the photo above, but you should see it now! A nice coat of Epoxy primer has it looking better than factory! The engine should be back within the next few days, and the final replacement parts for the wing are being made. She should be back in the air within weeks!

The CenTex Wing maintenance crew has been busy on other planes as well. Kate 310, while going through the annual, had a lot of clean up work and painting done on the inside, and the gear repair has been completed. The U-3A has had some touch-up paint work done on it, and a lot of TLC is being done to the rest of the wing aircraft.

Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:31 pm

Gear repair?! You mean it goes up AND down! We know what happens if it doesn't do both, don't want to go there again!!!

Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:45 pm

So does this mean that intergranular corrosion will occur under primer as well - is it strictly the metal's makeup or will the removal of oxygen (not just water) have an influence? If yes, I assume the primer bubbles or distorts ... or is there some other sort of detection means?

Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:09 pm

Ken wrote:So does this mean that intergranular corrosion will occur under primer as well - is it strictly the metal's makeup or will the removal of oxygen (not just water) have an influence? If yes, I assume the primer bubbles or distorts ... or is there some other sort of detection means?


Intergranular corrosion is caused by improper heat treatment, and no amount of primer will stop it. Basically, the granular structure keeps growing, and blows the part apart from the inside out. Correct heat treating stops growth of the grains of the metal.

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