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T-6 Training

Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:16 pm

Where can you go to get a T-6 type rating? I know Stallion 51 offers it...anywhere else?

Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:31 pm

Warbird Adventures...highly recommend it!

jim

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Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:45 pm

You don't need a type rating, LOA or any of the like just a check out.
Hello Chuck Gardner :idea:

Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:35 pm

JimH wrote:Warbird Adventures...highly recommend it!

jim


2nd that... Better attitudes........

Lynn

Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:37 pm

Bill Modes, in Prescott, AZ

Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:44 pm

Possibly Bill Miller in Denver.
VL

Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:05 pm

Wish they had someone in Texas..... :wink:

Lynn

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Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:39 pm

I don't know if there are LOAs anymore. The FAA converted our LOA s to a type rating about 5 years ago. I don't know what difference it made, but most of the guys from the Milwaukee GADO or FISDO that serve Oshkosh were polite to deal with.

The Spitfire requires a type rating since it is over 800 hp. The T-6 does not. BUT, be smart if you have been flying something like a Citabria that is light and very forgiving and move up to a T-6 you are going up 3 steps. First it has more power, then it is more restricted in forward visibility when 3 point. A trainer that you fly from the front seat, and can see over the nose, like a Super Cub, etc. really doesn't give you the full tailwheel intro. Perhaps most important, is the heavier wing loading and more aggressive stall behavior of the T-6. The 6 is an ADVANCED, not primary or basic trainer, and if you stall it an power on, cross controlled accelerated stall, it will sure do you some advanced training right then.

A really good checkout on this kind of basic air handling with someone like Chuck is really worthwhile and is a basis of warbird handling and may well save your life if you are later in a Mustang or similar.

And before you get into the 6, it would be useful to be competent in a Stearman first, like the cadets did back in the military.

I think a T-28A may not require the rating, the B may.

Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:09 pm

Bill they are "Type Authorizations" now. Just a technicality on the wording. Still the same concept as an LOA or Type Rating. I'm not trying to prove you wrong or start a pissing contest.
And you are correct on the T-28A, it does not require a Type Auth. Yes the T-28B, C, D, F, S do require a Type Authorization(except for the special 6 that were certificated).
Chuck

Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:40 pm

Call Greg Vallero, cell 636-373-4177, home 636-926-7879

Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:15 am

JimH wrote:Warbird Adventures...highly recommend it!

jim


Flew with them, and they were awesome!

Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:19 am

Lynn we have the someone in Texas, just not the something (T-6). If you have one the best people are around, just plop down a buck and a half and your good to go.

Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:39 am

up in the northeast Dan Caldarale is excellent. 25+ years experience in all forms of T6 flying and was a member of the 6 of Diamonds for quite some time. Also does transition work with a very nice J3. He is based in the Altoona, PA area and also operates out of the Philly area. His # is 814.251.5187.

Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:48 am

Okay, but any idea how many hours it "normally" takes to get a good checkout in a T-6? I'd say someone with @100 hours of time in citabrias/cubs and a little stearman time? (Taildragger time not total time in logbook.)
And what is the average all-in per hour cost? I would hope falling fuel prices are helping there..?
Lastly but critical, what do the insurance companies require to let you be a named pilot and fly the 6 solo?

Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:57 am

It's all flight frequency and core talent. No magic numbers. Once checked out most insurance companies will agree add you; it's just a function of how much $ you want to pay them. Cost is still probably in the $500 per hour range.
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