Barksdale B-24J

[Steve Nelson]

Hard to believe there are only 2 (?) Fords left.

I can think of at least two others...the B-24L in the Canada Aviation Musuem in Ottawa, and the B-24L in the RAF Museum at Cosford. Both ex-Indian AF machines. There's another B-24 on display in India, but I'm not sure if its Ford-built.

The Yankees recently acquired the second DHC Caribou produced..I suggested they see if the folks in Ottawa might be interested in a swap, since I'm not sure if they have a 'Bou in their collection. Once again, probably wishful thinking though.

SN

[retroaviation]

.........We've got two B-24A/LB-30

kevin

What?!? Where's the other B-24A besides ours? I know Pooner has a very small piece of the nose section from "#69" of the B-24As, but nowhere near an entire airplane. If you were holding back on the location of another "A" model while I tried so hard to find any example of one to help me reconfigure Ol' 927, then I'm gonna track you down and..........


Gary

[APG85]

Don't you feel like there ought to be a way for us to make this happen?

Yes! I hate seeing these planes rotting outside. Look at the B-17 at the USAF Armament Museum near Eglin AFB. Every time I see it, there is more rot on it. Something needs to be done...

[JDK]

Hard to believe there are only 2 (?) Fords left.

I can think of at least two others...the B-24L in the Canada Aviation Musuem in Ottawa, and the B-24L in the RAF Museum at Cosford. Both ex-Indian AF machines. There's another B-24 on display in India, but I'm not sure if its Ford-built.

The Yankees recently acquired the second DHC Caribou produced..I suggested they see if the folks in Ottawa might be interested in a swap, since I'm not sure if they have a 'Bou in their collection. Once again, probably wishful thinking though.

Ottawa DO trade (or have done recently, if you prefer) but I don't think they'd give up a sole example representative B-24 in their collection, not even for an early Caribou. Now, if they had two...

Incidentally, the 'Cosford' B-24 is now in the Bomber Command Hall at the RAF Museum, Hendon.

Where did the misinformation about 'only' two Ford B-24s surviving come from? Would it perhaps be 'only two in the USA' becoming 'only two...'?

Regards

[tulsaboy]

Gary-

I was referring to the B-24/LB-30 that is the old Morrison-Knudson bird, now stored in pieces in Colorado. I figured that one was pretty much public knowledge. I haven't really looked to see exactly where it was on the production line. It's an LB-30, isn't it? The registry says it was #55. Only 25 or 30 after 927, isn't it?



kevin

[Steve Nelson]

Incidentally, the 'Cosford' B-24 is now in the Bomber Command Hall at the RAF Museum, Hendon.

Sorry..I was just going by the info in the registry.

I know Pooner has a very small piece of the nose section from "#69" of the B-24As

Would that be the chunk now at Yankee? It's stenciled "RLB-24A 40-2369," and I was told it came from Falcon Field. They've removed the cargo nose cap, and attached the framework of the bomber nose formerly mounted on the Lone Star Privateer.

SN

[Mark_Pilkington]

Maybe the USAFM will some-how cut a deal with the YAF/YAM and become the US's private vintage display team? Kinda like the BBMF?

I would have thought the CAF has been fulfilling that role without request for @ 40 years, and perhaps formalisation of it would allow the ownership of the P-82 to be acknowledged as USAF, but the CAF to retain it on loan and maintain/operate it airworthy for the USAF.

Surely the CAF collection (B-29,B-17,B24 etc) far exceeds the YAF/YAM coverage and claim to such a role?

Regards

Mark Pilkington

[JDK]

Incidentally, the 'Cosford' B-24 is now in the Bomber Command Hall at the RAF Museum, Hendon.

Sorry..I was just going by the info in the registry.

Hey, no criticism! It was moved down when they shuffled the Valiant to Cosford to set up the National Cold War Exhibition.

[Steve Nelson]

I was just talking to a buddy last night whom I hadn't seen in awhile. He said he recently spent couple of weeks in England and hit all the major air musuems. Man..I'd love to get over there myself someday. I would say after I retire, but the way the economy is going, I'll probably end up working until I die (or join a gang of marauders scavenging the post-apocalyptic hellscape.)

SN

[Ken]

I'd love to see the Barksdale B-24 permanently loaned to a museum and replaced with a fiberglass replica. It'd also be fair if Barksdale built an enclosure/hangar, but I'm not holding my breath. Another option would be putting it on display in Dayton.

In an earlier thread regarding the Swoose trade, I mentioned that I wished NMUSAF would send the Barksdale B-17 to Hazy and keep SSSB. I still think that's appropriate.

If anyone here is tied to Barksdale, I hope they know this is not something directed against Barksdale because the same thing could be said for McGuire, Lackland, and other bases.

I've seen the Lackland replica in person and I've seen the fighters at Dave T's old restaurants. All looked quite nice. Anyone know who has the molds to produce these and what the approximate cost is??

Ken

[APG85]

Does anyone have close-up pictures of the Lackland replica?

[seabee1526]

Ah dreamin'......

[JohnB]

Does anyone have close-up pictures of the Lackland replica?

No. But I've seen it up-close and I thought it was very convincing. If even had some panel lines.
Good enough for what it's doing.
BTW: I've seen its predessor at the AAM at Duxford.
Beautifully restored and well presented (except they have too many planes in the building now).