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Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:25 pm

I'm sure that seeing those pictures was a very heart-breaking experience for Mike, but Mike, you did a hell of a job with very little. Ultimately the craftsmen at the USAFM (or whatever it's called now) will make it right, at least as far as being on display and telling it's story is concerned, and hopefully whoever was responsible for that will have to answer for it. But my hat's off to you.

(And as far as my own personal opinion is concerned, the last example of ANY airplane should never be flown, because flying is dangerous - especially at night. At night all the air turns black, and everyone knows there's no lift in black air.) :D

Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:35 pm

I still can't believe Mike started with only what he did.

Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:45 pm

because flying is dangerous - especially at night. At night all the air turns black, and everyone knows there's no lift in black air.)

AND that black air makes the motor run funny too ... :shock:



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Let's not start this verbal match again...please...

Dedication

Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:00 pm

It's a good thing Mike didn't take the time to make 4252 posts about nothing, or he wouldn't have gotten the Helldiver done...

Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:41 pm

I love you, John!

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Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:04 pm

I love you, John!

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :twisted: :wink:

Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:18 pm

davegnz wrote:More historic aircraft have been destroyed in hanger fires then destroyed by crashing them...how about Yanks Air Museum...
Perhaps you mean Yankee Air Museum?

http://www.daggertools.com/28.html

Yanks, located in Chino, has never had a fire that I am aware of.

Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:25 pm

And Yankee air museum had flyable aircraft destroyed in a fire in a WWII building. These were not static aircraft with the exception of one fighter and a WWII glider in rebuild.

Re: Dedication

Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:48 pm

Forgotten Field wrote:It's a good thing Mike didn't take the time to make 4252 posts about nothing, or he wouldn't have gotten the Helldiver done...


ZIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That'll still be funny tomorrow, without the scotch. :D

Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:49 pm

MD, let's not forget the newly completed YOV-10, it was very static and it was very destroyed.

Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:01 pm

Yeah, that was actually a really sweet looking restoration.

Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:15 pm

Sh*tstorm aside... any updates on the A-25?

Also, check out this killer photo!

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Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:32 pm

No current data, but here are some pics I took on the "Behind The Scenes Tour" a couple months ago. As you can see, the wings have been deskinned..I understand a lot of the original work is going to have to be redone, due to a lack of corrosion control. DISCLAIMER: The previous comment was by no means meant to denigrate anyone's efforts or stir up trouble..just relating what I've been told.

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Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:55 pm

too bad its not flying! :wink:

Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:16 pm

Been following this discussion. Let me say this: The longerons obviously took a long time to make, and if they were hacksawed it's not good. If it's any consolation, new ones can be made and put in if the plane is made airworthy. I've seen it done before.

Mike worked hard, and made many sacrifices. A lesson to be learned here, is in the restoration business maybe whatever time you estimate to get it done should be multiplied by 3. Another lesson, expect to be disappointed when dealing with the USAFM or the Navy Museum of the feds for that matter.
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