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Okay, please re-read what was stated before. All your items have been addressed. First, it's up to the sponsors of the aircraft to make the final decision on color and placement. They are given information on size and recommended colors from HQ and take that into consideration. As well, no one said anything about it being readable. It was also said that they must be distinguishable in photos. There is a huge difference between those two words. The point being that the wings just need to be clearly wings in the picture and clearly the CAF wings. If they aren't clearly that image, then there is no point in having them to enhance marketing.
Guys, it's really getting on my nerves to keep hearing the words "some serious thought should be given" when there have been several posts stating that part of the process is giving serious thought to how these decals are done and where they are placed. Just because you don't agree with where they're placed doesn't mean that serious thought wasn't given. It is demeaning of those who are trying to do something good for our organization and to keep these planes flying by making it clear that these planes are part of the CAF.
BTW, the other thing that is being harped on is also alluded to in this post - how units are identified. It's not the "Southern California Wing of the CAF". It's the "CAF Southern California Wing". CAF is first always. That is part of the problem that has existed with the CAF. The whole has been subjugated to the part. You only continue to hinder things when you do not make all your efforts work together and it's something that a lot of people are fighting hard to get rid of those hindrances.
Well first of all I have been defending the use of the logos from point one so maybe you could get your emotions under control if you are going to be an ambassador promoting the use logos for the organization in a public forum.
Secondly, you can put the logos anywhere you please, CAF owns the aircraft, that doesn't mean I have to like it.
Thirdly, the logo on the Bobcat takes away from the overall appeal of the aircraft in my opinion. If the goal of the marketing campaign is to place branding the aircraft as of higher importance than the general aesthetic value of the aircraft (even to someone who knows nothing of proper markings) then I'd say that was accomplished in the case. It is highly visible.
I don't have a responsibility to make you or anyone else feel good about what you are doing. Good intentions and bad results aren't what you are after. If my daughter had good intentions painting the side of my car with finger paint to make it look pretty that doesn't mean it looks good. Perhaps the placement, size color, shouldn't be left in the hands of a sponsor or volunteer. Sure they have a real investment in the aircraft and it makes sense to get their opinions but shouldn't a graphic artist or someone who understands aesthetics be placing and sizing the logos?
Frankly, I think giving my honest opinion about the logos is the most respectable thing I can do. I certainly am not the only one who feels this way about the placement, size, color of some of those logos. Wouldn't you rather have some honest opinions or would you rather just get a pat on the back for doing a good job and I talk smack behind your back. I frankly respect anyone who gives me their honest opinion whether I like it or not. Jack, August, Mustang Driver, JDK, BDK, EDowning, T33Driver, Django these are all people I have agreed with and disagreed with on various topics but I respect the fact that each one of them has an opinion. Much better than sticking your wet finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing. Why is it that each time a topic with any sort of debate comes along if everyone doesn't join hands around the fire, dance and sing praise to unity everyone gets their panties in a knot and decries the integrity of the unit has been forever tarnished.
Why don't you please re-read my posts and see that I don't have a problem with the logos, I just don't happen to like the fact that they are placed on some aircraft in a way that I think actually makes the product less marketable. I have defended the use of the logos. Just because I support the idea of using logos doesn't mean I have to like the placement of each individual logo. You seem to be unable to separate those 2 concepts.
Ryan
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