P-38 Scatterbrain Kid II

Mudge · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:54 pm

Thank you.

Mudge the mollified

muddyboots · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:23 pm

Jack Cook wrote:

P-38M cockpit mudge and that nasty survey nose.

I LIKE that nose!

Jack Cook · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:10 pm

Quote:

Hey!

Opposite of pretty but I like your avatar :shock:

Lynn Allen · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:53 pm

It was a 3 seater, PIC/ Radar man and one in the nose...

Lynn

Shay · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:18 pm

Warbird Kid wrote:

Would be awsome to see this one restored as a night fighter, complete with the radar pod under the nose!

Yes it would

Shay
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airnutz · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:52 pm

Mudge wrote:

Is it just the camera angle or is this a 2 seater? That gondola looks quite large to me.

Mudge the vision impaired :shock:

An M with a baywindow in front where Mudge could live his dream of a P-38 ride...with an IMAX-view, no less!!!

Not a good place to be for a belly landing...but a room with view ain't necessarily perfect.. :roll:

BCalmes · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:53 pm

I agree it would be great to restore it back to its M configuration.

As for riding in that survey nose, only the senior photographers got to work in our N1107V. We still have a retiree working here part time who started with us in 1961, and he regrets he never got a ride in that nose.

(Don't feel too sorry for him. He went to work for another company where he got to ride as photographer in the back seat of a T-33. Aerial photographers used to have the coolest stuff!)

marine air · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:13 pm

I think there should be a ban on naming rare aircraft names like "Scrapiron" or "Scatterbrain" or "bucket of bolts"etc. Seems to be a curse of some kind. :twisted:

Jack Cook · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:30 pm

Larry Blummer the pilot of the original Scrap Iron downing 6 FW-190s in a 5 minute dogfight garnering him the DSC. Althought if the truth be know, he wrecked the 1st Scrap Iron by flying through telephone lines :shock:

Ryan Harris · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:51 pm

Just to clarify something. "Scatterbrain Kid II" is NOT an original M model. The original M model belonged to Champlin and is now in the Museum of Flight. The rear cockpit you see here came off of that airframe. Champlin didn't feel like the rear bubble was "representative" of a true fighter Lightning so they traded with the CAF folks. It really is too bad, because the Champlin airframe was representative of a mostly unknown variant of the breed.

BTW, the plexi bubble for the back seat now forms part of a donation box at the San Marcos CAF hangar.

Jesse C. · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:15 pm

Two things that would be good about an M version

1. A rare model is represented in a dfferent color scheme that is not that common and would look killer flying along with the MAAM P-61

2. Rides in one of the ultimate fighters out there without breaking your back to get in and out of it.

And yes, as much as some may love that nose, get rid of it or make a more accurate pathfinder version instead. But I would much rather see the guns with their flash guards and that radome hanging off its chin!

Just my crazy thoughts, yours may vary.

Rogue · **Posted:** Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:50 am

Beautiful!

Lynn Allen · **Posted:** Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:48 pm

Jesse C. wrote:

Two things that would be good about an M version

1. A rare model is represented in a dfferent color scheme that is not that common and would look killer flying along with the MAAM P-61

2. Rides in one of the ultimate fighters out there without breaking your back to get in and out of it.

And yes, as much as some may love that nose, get rid of it or make a more accurate pathfinder version instead. But I would much rather see the guns with their flash guards and that radome hanging off its chin!

Just my crazy thoughts, yours may vary.

They wanted to do that after the wreck, but it never got off the ground floor..

Lynn

Rob Mears · **Posted:** Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:47 am

Wasn't the blown canopy taken from an actual "M" model that's now on display at the Boeing Museum of Flight (ex-Champlin)?

I'd just as soon see the canopy returned to the original/actual P-38M it originally belonged to and have that plane restored authentically to its former glory. The only downside would be that we would never get to see it fly in that configuration though.

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