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Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:00 pm
Great pictures! Is that a real Storch or a modified Moraine-Saulnier Criquet? I don't know the history of that bird.
Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:30 pm
According to Kermit, it is the real deal. Its German down to the instruments and electrics (as well as the MG-81 hanging out the back (dummy I'm sure). It does have fabric wings and not the metal wings of the French planes.
Mark H
Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:26 pm
Great pics there, looks awesome.
Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:35 pm
P51Mstg wrote:According to Kermit, it is the real deal. Its German down to the instruments and electrics (as well as the MG-81 hanging out the back (dummy I'm sure). It does have fabric wings and not the metal wings of the French planes.
Mark H
Nice, a few questions for anyone who knows:
1) How many original German Storch's are in existance, and how many of those fly?
2) How rare is the Argus AS-10 engine that it uses? Are they hard to obtain?
Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:10 am
From what I heard the Storch is one of Kermit's favorites to fly. I was so jealous when my father came back from a visit and Kermit took him for a put around the area in the Storch. The Storch has always been my favorite Luftwaffe aircraft.
Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:14 am
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Nice, a few questions for anyone who knows:
1) How many original German Storch's are in existance, and how many of those fly?
2) How rare is the Argus AS-10 engine that it uses? Are they hard to obtain?[/quote]
http://www.preservedaxisaircraft.com/
Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:45 pm
What's the chain drive for on the pilot's left?
Thanks.
Bill
Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:09 pm
That's for the flaps.
Norm
Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:02 pm
Double post.
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Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:04 pm
warbird1 wrote:Nice, a few questions for anyone who knows:
1) How many original German Storch's are in existance, and how many of those fly?
San Diego Aerospace Museum has/had a Storch. I can't find it on their website. I saw it about 10 years ago. Beautiful restoration. Non flyer.
Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:39 pm
I've flown a couple of Storches - if I remember correctly, German built fuselages have the door hinged forward while the French have it hinged upward. The CAF has a Storch with a German fuselage and French wings.
As to the big chain, as you crank on the lever, first you are lowering the flaps and at a point the ailerons start to droop, too, allowing level flight as slow as 32 mph. Normal landings can be done in 50-100 feet once you get used to the rather steep approach angle. My 2 cents.
Randy
Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:22 pm
There's a Storch undergoing a long restoration in a hangar at La Porte, near Houston, and the guys say it isn't too far from going back together. The wingless fuselage was tightly wrapped in a tarp, so I couldn't get a look at 'er. The fellas also stated that it's not only a German aircraft, but a war verteran as well -- that actually shed a couple bullets during the restoration.

That's what they said, and sounded serious about it.

I stopped in on 4-5-08 by the way.
They also have that great big Russian biplane thing -- Antonov AN-2? -- all put together and just about ready to begin engine runs and taxi tests.
Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:50 pm
The CAF "D"model should be flying soon. (The one Randy and I used to fly) When you say French had metal wings you are refering to the structure not the skins. All of the wings were fabric except the fuel tank covers. The CAF Storch is a German fuselage with two mismatched French wings.
Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:33 pm
DaveM2 wrote:
Nice, a few questions for anyone who knows:
1) How many original German Storch's are in existance, and how many of those fly?
2) How rare is the Argus AS-10 engine that it uses? Are they hard to obtain?[/quote]
http://www.preservedaxisaircraft.com/[/quote]
According to this site, Kermit's Storch is a French built one.
Jerry
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