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Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:08 pm
CDR DE Boye & LT B Murphy NAS Whiting North 1976.
Does the B/N # coralate to the a/c #417??
Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:14 pm
Jack, 417 is just the side number to keep track of it. No corralation at all with Bureau number.
Great photo. I was at Whiting then, instructing.
Regards
Steve
Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:22 pm
Cool!
That's my step-dad up front. He was the flight surgeon for VT-2/VT-3.
That was a great place for grow up and I remember lots of the pilots. Even some of the Iranian ones
Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:26 pm
I believe at the time that photo was taken, that there was a consolidated maintenance, and squadrons just drew planes as needed. A few years earlier and the "side numbers" were attached to specific squadrons, as were the tail markings. When I was a student, 2G was VT-2. 2W was VT-3. Later the tailcode "E" was for Training Wing 5 and the consolidated maintenance.
The Navy usually assigned 100s to a squadron, 200s to a squadron, etc. Still do with carrier wings.
Regards
Steve
Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:29 pm
Jack,
I was with HT-18 at Whiting. We had all kinds of foreign students.
Steve
Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:10 pm
My step-dad flew a couple hops with 18 mostly I think to get the t- shirt
The flying club was on the south field and since we flew the Arrow and T-34 alot I got to see the helos ops. When we were at Whiting there were lots of Iranian students. all seemed to have tons of $$$ and a fancy car. One offered $25,000 for my sister. I thought it was a good deal

With the Iranian revolution I'm sure that most of those guys didn't make it
Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:48 pm
Jack, for a moment there I thought that was your step-Dad’s old aircraft that we have here!
Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:00 pm
BTW I want that tail!!
UPS can drop it off at my front door
Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:10 pm
Jack,
From what I saw of the Iranian students, the young guys (Cadets and Ensigns) were just as bubbly and energetic and receptive to instruction as the home town guys. They were willing to TRY things. Now the older guys (LTs and LCDRs........who'd been around the Navy pea patch a while were much more cautious and unwilling to do anything that remotely meant making a mistake....like they were going to have to "pay" for it.
Regards
Steve
Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:19 pm
Notice the fairly good looking T-28 that Jack posted. That was dated 1976. Pretty good shape if you ask me.
Now take a look at a T-28C only a few months after delivery in 1956. Must have had a drought going on at Whiting in 1956...saving water.
Regards
Steve
Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:25 pm
Heading to the boat 1956. T-28C enroute to the USS Antietam for carrier quals.
Regards
Steve
Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:32 pm
Same flight, now over the boat in a washed out photo.
USS Antietam 1956 initial Carrier Quals Pensacola FL. I thought it was BIGGER than that!
Regards
Steve
Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:32 pm
Me at Whiting North 1977.
Note the tail Eric previously posted
Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:37 pm
Great pic Jack........handsome devil standing tall there..........
Note the TW-5 nomenclature...........Aircraft no longer belonged to individual squadrons......at least at Whiting. All samie samie.
Regards
Steve
Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:43 pm
Alot of them still sported the Doer Bird and the Red Knight insignias.
My sisters step-son just got winged at HT-18 about 6 months ago and is now flying Osperys.
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