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Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:14 pm

Your point?

Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:57 pm

Dan Newcomb wrote:Your point?


I agree with you
He was not part of any movie group or aviation actors guild!

Steve

Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:59 pm

planeoldsteve wrote:A good friend that posts on this forum from time to time was called almost out of the blue to be in the movie "Walk the Line"! The movie people wanted his Beech 18 taxiing in the back ground of a shot when Johnny Cash was on the phone in the Air Force. He said the shot took all day for about ten seconds of footage in the movie.

Steve


Funny, same thing happened to us for the same set of scenes. All we got was the butt-end of our plane in a window with a massive Star & Bars and the N-number still plainly visible...

I thought it was funny in this day of CGI especially since they demanded an all-white airplane which would have been perfect for CGI work instead of a massive sticker (which is what they used). Oh well, we got paid well for having the plane sit all day when it was going to sit anyway. :)

Another was featured twice on Prison Break. My current employer (a Dallas shortline railroad) has been featured in 4 episodes of that show, including the Season 2 premier.

Most film companies tend to use local talent & resources whenever possible. Costs less and they're less likely to give a hassle because they'll be thankful for the opprotunity and usually will go out of their way to do what is asked.

Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:58 pm

A good friend that posts on this forum from time to time was called almost out of the blue to be in the movie "Walk the Line"! The movie people wanted his Beech 18 taxiing in the back ground of a shot when Johnny Cash was on the phone in the Air Force. He said the shot took all day for about ten seconds of footage in the movie.


A few weeks ago I was working on 2 small sets at a couple of airports for some scenes for Indiana Jones 4. They hauled in tractor trailers full of props and several trailer loads of vehicles. They had several crews setting up for a week ahead of time painting, building, etc. Aircraft flew in at noon on the day of the shoot, they did the shoots at 3 pm and had the wrap party by 5 pm and they said the part MAY be 10 seconds in the movie.

Ryan

Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:04 pm

You talk about GCI! The Centrum commercial that is on TV currently (skydivers) was shot at our hangar last month. They spent an entire day shooting stills of China Doll because flying just wasn’t in their budget. To me the commercial looks like a cartoon. They did pay well however!

Ryan who is directing Indiana? Wouldn't be Joe Johnston would it?

Dan

PS: sorry if I sounded cranky plane old steve

Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:21 pm

Dan Newcomb wrote:PS: sorry if I sounded cranky plane old steve


Dan

Some times it's hard to detect sarcasm when written but either way there're no hard feelings. I must say that since I have been on WIX this is by far the most writing that I have done since school! I was never any good at it then either, All my Report: Writing teachers said that I had a great imagination, to bad it's at spelling!

I want to thank you for the Great Job you are doing on the PBJ and keeping us up to date with the posts. One other thing I wanted to thank you for, about six or seven months ago I read your Signature:block at the end of your posts (What are you waiting for? JOIN UP!) So I did, I joined the Dixie Wing and have been having a Great time!

Thanks again Steve

Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:12 pm

HGUCSU wrote:Shay your attitude is not welcomed.

Unlike you some of us in the warbird industry, we are trying to recreate the real days of flight using REAL planes.

I will admit CGI will be used for some of the scenes we plan mainly due to time and some costs.

I have spoken at length with my other film buddy and we both agree to ensure 100% realism we need a bloody big budget to support acting, logistics and acquiring authentic period gear for this film IF it will get off the ground ...

We are currently assessing what is likely to be available before we move any more forward.

If you dont want to see a REAL warbird movie that is perfectly fine with us. I do know many others in the world would tho.

Our aim is to try and recreate everything down to the last detail which would set a new standard perhaps .. but at a cost.



I'm almost sorry that you don't welcome my comments. But they were made in partial jest considering today's reality of the movie industry with regards to Warbirds. I can't help it if my sophomoric comments insult the hyper-sensitive.

Flyboys and Pearl Harbor are 2 examples of movies showing the times of actual aircraft involvement in movies. And those movies were big budget movies or atleast Pearl Harbor was anyways. And still involved a majority of heavy CGI use.

It's just a sign of things to come. A crew from the Geek Squad and their CRAY supercomputers fed on Twinkies and Mountan Dew is more within a production company's budget than multiple Warbird Owners maintenance, fuel, expenses, and time.

I'd love to see your efforts come to fruition. Hence why I watch Tora Tora Tora and BOB a couple of times a year. I'm just being realistic.

But I wish you the best of luck and offer this bit of advice.....lighten up.


Shay
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Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:45 pm

Well this feature of ours we are trying our best to work out what we can afford before we start and how to acquire the AIRCRAFT so it can be authentic.

Next question is does anyone know where to find the 1940-50s Am-2 aluminim matting used on air bases we need a few bits err say a few more.. Anyone able to help out?

Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:17 pm

Ryan who is directing Indiana? Wouldn't be Joe Johnston would it?


Spielberg was directing our scenes Lucas was overseeing.

Next question is does anyone know where to find the 1940-50s Am-2 aluminim matting used on air bases we need a few bits err say a few more.. Anyone able to help out?


I don't know about aluminum matting but you can get PSP "Marsden Matting" at the following location.

http://barstowtruckparts.com/detail.asp ... ID=4&Cat=1

Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:54 pm

Thank you very kindly, that is the stuff we needed PSP just perfect. We will now chase that up.

Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:11 pm

For a The Hunters remake...

Get a couple of H--19s too.
They appear in the bacground in a couple of scenes inThe Hunters....along with the C-54 at the beginning of the film and a few parked T-33s.

Just a couple of weeks ago, that was the first film I watched on my new 52" LCD Sony. Great film on HDTV (if you watch the widescreen version).

BTW: In the scene showing thw massed MiG (F-84F) formation, only the planes closest to the camera are painted like the "star" MiGs...the rest are natural metal with US markings painted out...you get a better shot of one in the trailer for the film that is included in the DVD.

BTW II: I'm not holding my breath on this one. Back when I was in the serice I was asked to review the script and provide technical input for "Bat 22". Years later when the film came out, it didn't look much like the script I read.

Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:16 pm

Well we are writing it up perparing the ground work.

All other aviation movies started the same right.. at the blank book page and thinking.

Im taking the logistic side and finding whats is really available to use.

We are mostly likely looking now at a short film but have to decide on the time frame of the project.

We are wanting to tell a story but in order it needs to be interesting enough, action packed and long enough so the plots and storyline work well.

Does anyone know of any good camera ships companies and their costings?

Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:17 pm

That could keep up with jets satisfactorily?

Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:27 pm

Does anyone know of any good camera ships companies and their costings?


Clay Lacey is one of the leaders in this industry and probably the most experienced. We have done work with him and it was all very beautiful work and he is a great guy and very well known and respected in the industry. POF and Aero Trader also both use their B-25s as camera ships.

http://www.claylacy.com/

IJ4

Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:58 am

Re the new Indiana Jones movie:

Aircraft flew in at noon on the day of the shoot, they did the shoots at 3 pm and had the wrap party by 5 pm and they said the part MAY be 10 seconds in the movie.


What planes were they using? I heard the movie is set in 1957.
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