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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:55 pm 
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I never read the article by Noreen Golfman but after reading Rick Mercer's reply, its easy to figure out what its about.

For those who haven't heard of Rick Mercer he's a Canadian comedian frequently on the CBC. His reponse is worth the read, thanks Rick, well said.

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By Courtesy (St. John's)
The Independent
Friday, January 26, 2007

By Rick Mercer
For The Independent

Poor Noreen Golfman. She wrote in her Jan. 12 column (Blowing in the Wind … ) that her holidays were ruined by what she felt were incessant reports about Canadian men and women serving in Afghanistan. So upset was Noreen that, armed with her legendary pen, sharpened from years in the trenches at Memorial University’s women’s studies department, she went on the attack. I know I should just ignore the good professor and write her off as another bitter baby boom academic pining for what she fondly calls “the protest songs of yesteryear,” but I can’t help myself. A response is exactly what she wants; and so I include it here. After all, Newfoundlanders have seen this before: Noreen Golfman, sadly, is Margaret Wente without the wit.

Dear Noreen,

I am so sorry to hear about the interruption to your holiday cheer. You say in your column that it all started when the CBC ran a story on some “poor sod” who got his legs blown off in Afghanistan.

The “poor sod” in question, Noreen, has a name and it is Cpl. Paul Franklin. He is a medic in the Forces and has been a buddy of mine for years. I had dinner with him last week in Edmonton, in fact. I will be sure to pass on to him that his lack of legs caused you some personal discomfort this Christmas.

Paul is a pretty amazing guy. You would like him I think. When I met him years ago he had two good legs and a brutally funny sense of humour. He was so funny that I was pretty sure he was a Newfoundlander. You probably know the type (or maybe you don’t) — salt of the earth, always smiling, and like so many health-care professionals, seemingly obsessed with helping others in need.

These days he spends his time training other health-care workers and learning how to walk again. That’s a pretty exhausting task for Paul … heading into rehabilitation he knew very well his chances of walking again were next to none, considering he’s a double amputee, missing both legs above the knee.

At the risk of ruining your day Noreen, I’m proud to report that for the last few months he has managed to walk his son to school almost every morning and it’s almost a kilometre from his house. Next month Paul hopes to travel to Washington where he claims he will learn how to run on something he calls “bionic flipper cheetah feet.” The legs may be gone but the sense of humour is still very much intact.

Forgive me Noreen for using Paul’s name so much, but seeing as you didn’t catch it when CBC ran the profile on his recovery I thought it might be nice if you perhaps bothered to remember it from here on in. This way, when you are pontificating about him at a dinner party, you no longer have to refer to him simply as the “poor sod,” but you can actually refer to him as Paul Franklin. You may prefer “poor sod” of course; it’s all a matter of how you look at things. You see a “poor sod” that ruined your Christmas and I see a truly inspiring guy. That’s why I am thrilled that the CBC saw fit to run a story on Paul and his wife Audra. I would go so far as to suggest that many people would find their story, their marriage and their charitable endeavours inspiring. Just as I am sure that many readers of The Independent are inspired by your suggestion that Paul’s story has no place on the public broadcaster.

Further on in your column you ask why more people aren’t questioning Canada’s role in Afghanistan. I understand this frustration. It’s a good question. Why should Canada honour its United Nations-sanctioned NATO commitments? Let’s have the discussion. I would welcome debate on the idea that Canada should simply ignore its international obligations and pull out of Afghanistan. By all means ask the questions Noreen, but surely such debates can occur without begrudging the families of injured soldiers too much airtime at Christmas?

Personally, I would have thought that as a professor of women’s studies you would be somewhat supportive of the notion of a NATO presence in Afghanistan. After all, it is the NATO force that is keeping the Taliban from power. In case you missed it Noreen, the Taliban was a regime that systematically de-peopled women to the point where they had no human rights whatsoever. This was a country where until very recently it was illegal for a child to fly a kite or for a little girl to receive any education.

To put it in terms you might understand Noreen, rest assured the Taliban would frown on your attending this year’s opening night gala of the St. John’s International Women’s Film Festival. In fact, as a woman, a professor, a writer and (one supposes) an advocate of the concept that women are people, they would probably want to kill you three or four times over. Thankfully that notion is moot in our cozy part of the world but were it ever come to pass I would suggest that you would be grateful if a “poor sod” like Paul Franklin happened along to risk his life to protect yours.

And then of course you seem to be somehow personally indignant that I would visit troops in Afghanistan over Christmas. You ask the question “When did the worm turn?” Well I hate to break it to you, but in my case this worm has been doing this for a long time now. It’s been a decade since I visited Canadian peacekeeping operations in Bosnia and this Christmas marked my third trip to Afghanistan. Why do I do it? Well I am not a soldier — that much is perfectly clear. I don’t have the discipline or the skills. But I am an entertainer and entertainers entertain. And occasionally, like most Canadians, I get to volunteer my professional time to causes that I find personally satisfying.

As a Newfoundlander this is very personal to me. On every one of these trips I meet Newfoundlanders who serve proudly in the Canadian Forces. Every day they do the hard work that we as a nation ask of them. They do this without complaint and they do it knowing that at every turn there are people like you, Noreen, suggesting that what they do is somehow undignified or misguided.

I am also curious Noreen why you refer to the head of the Canadian Forces, General Rick Hillier, as “Rick ‘MUN graduate’ Hillier.” I would suggest that if you wish to criticize General Hillier’s record of leadership or service to his country you should feel free. He is a big boy. However, when you dismiss him as “Rick ‘MUN Graduate’ Hillier” the message is loud and clear. Are you suggesting that because General Hillier received an education at Memorial he is somehow unqualified for high command? We are used to seeing this type of tactic in certain national papers — not The Independent.

You end by saying you personally cannot envision that peace can ever be paved with military offensives. May I suggest to you that in many instances in history peace has been achieved exactly that way.

The gates of Auschwitz were not opened with peace talks. Holland was not liberated by peacekeepers and fascism was not defeated with a deft pen. Time and time again men and women in uniform have laid down their lives in just causes and in an effort to free others from oppression.

It is unfortunate, Noreen, that in such instances people like yourself may have your sensitivities offended, especially during the holiday season, but perhaps that is a small price to pay. Best wishes for the remainder of 2007; may it be a year of peace and prosperity.



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BLR, It is a hard to fairly reply to two newspaper aritcles when you only include one of them. However, I think one can present two categories of resonse. 1st. You see these young men horribly maimed for life( about 11,000 of the 23,000 US) and think it is a tragedy and should be stopped. 2. You see the same horrible injuries, but to think it is something noble and patriotic so that we should keep doing the same thing and produce more victims. I think this choice is more important than focusing on the perhaps insensitve article the lady wrote.

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I think the point of the story is that there are lots of busybody self professed do-gooders out there that spend far too much time feeling more sorry for people than those same people seem to feel for themselves.

I can't speak for BLR, but I don't think he was asking for a reply. I thought the article quite heartwarming. I don't think I would have anywhere near the courage.


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Way to go Rick!

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Blowing in the wind …

Noreen Golfman
Standing Room Only

Between mouthfuls of fruitcake and blissful stretches of catch-up sleep, you couldn’t ignore the war (oh, sorry, is that peaceful restoration work?) in Afghanistan during the holiday season if you tried.On the one hand, you were given license to let go and savour slow food, idle afternoons, and the constant pleasure of friends and family — in other words, fully appreciate the privileges of life in the West; on the other hand, you were constantly reminded of Our Boys out on patrol,
eating reconstituted turkey in the Afghan desert — in other words, invited to feel guilty for not chowing down sand and fighting the war on terror.

Every time you opened a newspaper or listened to the news, especially on the CBC, you were compelled to reach for the box of tissues. If it wasn’t a story about some poor sod’s legs being blown off then it was an extended interview with some dead soldier’s parents. Indulging in another bite of dark chocolate was meant to be more painful this year. Here, have a plate of guilt with your second helping, my dear, and pass the self-reproach.

Amidst all the cranked up sentimentality and the daily barrage of stories from the likes of reporter Christy “one of the boys” Blatchford or Peter “not exactly on the front lines” Mansbridge, The Globe and Mail’s television columnist, John Doyle, dared to question the nature of the coverage. Doyle openly wondered, as is his right and responsibility, what in the world the public broadcaster was doing, let alone his own privately owned newspaper, devoting so much mawkish
attention to the Canadian troops?

It’s one thing to pay full respect to the men (and some women) who have chosen a life in uniform and are therefore more or less voluntarily enduring punishing conditions, risking their lives many thousands of miles away from the comforts of home. It is another to report on their presence in that unfamiliar place without so much as a hint that they don’t belong there, that the campaign to restore order and keep the Taliban from returning to power might be doomed, that blood is obviously begetting blood and that Canadians, and especially the Newfoundlanders who comprise such a disproportionate percentage of the overseas troops (compare with the number of African-Americans fighting in the doomed project of Viet Nam), are destined to return in body bags.

Shouldn’t we — the media, our public intellectual, citizens in general — at least be questioning, not merely glorifying or going sloppy over this fact?
Any time anyone questions the coverage, as Doyle did and as this column is venturing to do, you can practically hear the rage mounting in the neck veins of the military huggers. Peter Mansbridge threw a public hissy fit, obviously protesting too much. And Doyle told his readers that he’d been receiving some pretty
nasty hate mail after his columns in December, not surprising, really, when you consider how defensive people are about the troops. I expect I’ll get some ugly stuff, too. It is a trite irony that you are chastised for daring to question the purpose of the military mission when that very mission is allegedly about restoring democracy and freedom of speech.

Which leads me to kick at another sacred cow — that is, Rick Mercer and that whole lot of star Newfoundlanders who went over to entertain Our
Boys (and Girls) over Christmas, reportedly flown to unmarked destinations and, presumably, forced to share some dehydrated food and wear really ugly clothing for a few days.

What in the world is going on? Where are the protest songs of yesteryear? I guess, when General Rick “MUN graduate” Hiller invites you to come along and share the joy ride you have to join up faster than you can say “Bob Hope is dead.” Reading Mercer’s widely circulated piece on the joys of serving gravy to the grateful Canadian boys was almost as painful as watching Peter McKay flirt with Condoleezza “Condee” Rice. Just when did the worm turn? When was it suddenly acceptable for your garden variety progressive, satire-loving celebrity to hug the troops, praise military actions, and pass the ammunition without so much as a hint of dissent or any questioning of the value of the mission, not to mention its obviously U.S.-linked agenda? Can you imagine popular talk
show host Jon Stewart flying overseas over for a few feel-good shows in Iraq?

What looking-glass world have Rick and his talented cronies walked into? Inevitably, in the U.S. the right-wing White House mongers who first
encouraged the post 9/11 invasion of Iraq are now retreating faster than a camel in heat. It’s taken an awfully long time and thousands of body bags, but public opinion is finally forcing an undignified about face. The buzzwords for 2007 are “exit strategy.”

But not here, not if you listen to Stephen Harper, not if you are getting all warm and fuzzy about how meaningful it is to stand in line waiting for a double double at the Tim Horton’s shop in Kandahar, not if Christy Blanchard’s columns make you cry, and you want to make Rick Mercer and his buddies honourary soldiers.
It is really hard to see how the road to open debate, let alone peace, can be paved with military offensives and the song and laugh shows of Newfoundland talent, and there is something deeply disturbing about the unquestioning belief that it can.

Noreen Golfman is a professor of women’s studies and literature at Memorial. Her column returns Jan. 19.



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I won't claim to be in the know about a lot of things, or . . . well, even politically saavy... but by paragraph two of Noreen's article I was already angry. She wrote with such a detached air about her. I won't get much into in except to say that I think Ricks response was thoughtful and well written and I appreciate you sharing it.

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Stephanie, Did you read the lady's original article? Being in Canada you may have, but if not all you have to go on is Ricks summary of what she said. He only quotes her directly on a few words. As I wrote, I don't know what the real wording of her letter was and especially the tone and context of her writing. But I am certainly on the side that finds the death and maiming of thousands of young men and women, not something to cheer about, rather to question and oppose. The Tue USA Today has an interesting article on Vietnam combat vets in Congress and their votes now on Iraq, Split about 55-45% against Bush.What so people in Canada think about the war?

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Bill Greenwood wrote:
Stephanie, Did you read the lady's original article? Being in Canada you may have, but if not all you have to go on is Ricks summary of what she said. He only quotes her directly on a few words. As I wrote, I don't know what the real wording of her letter was and especially the tone and context of her writing. But I am certainly on the side that finds the death and maiming of thousands of young men and women, not something to cheer about, rather to question and oppose. The Tue USA Today has an interesting article on Vietnam combat vets in Congress and their votes now on Iraq, Split about 55-45% against Bush.What so people in Canada think about the war?


I'd like to know more about what the Canadians think too. I am in Vancouver, WA, not Vancouver, BC. I am about 5 hours south of the border.

I did read her article, however, and I agree that the death and maiming of thousands of our men and women should not be cheered. Maybe Noreen is correct in her view that the troops don't belong there. However, I do feel like our men and women overseas didn't deserve the indifference that came through (at least to me) in her article. I think it could have been a bit more tactful than what she put forth.

I am going to have to get my hands on USA Today and check out the article... willing to bet I could go find in online now... :)

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This all brings up a good point. I no longer know how to feel about the war. I am on neither side politically. I feel strongly about supporting the troops, but I just don't know anymore. I not saying that I am in favor of it, or against it I am almost numb. I just don't know how to feel.

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Re: Noreen Golfmans article, she seems to be a bit out in left field in regards to the apparent lack of negative reporting by the media here on Afghanstan. Questioning Canada's current involvement and what we should be contributing in Afghanastan is a daily hot topic with the media and public here, so I'm surprised she seems to think its taboo to mention it in the media, and I'm still looking for any articles that glorify it.

As for her article, I get her point but demeaning injured and killed soldiers or belittling reporters or celebs who don't share her opnion doesn't press her message home. She doesn't seem to understand the difference between supporting the war and supporting the troops.

For me Rick Mercer's article has little to do with patriotism, noble causes or about supporting the war or not. It's about putting things in perspective. Many of us are so far removed from what's happening that we become complacent, unconcerned, disinterested and sometimes we need a reminder / reality check about what's going on.

Agree or disagree with troops fighting overseas, it's happening and while they are there, they need public support so they can do their job. Support the troops but at the same time put pressure on the politicians to resolve the issues so the troops can come home.

Does this Canadian support the war? Of course not. But the thought of a regime that promotes hatred, degradation of a gender and the execution of innocent people govening a country concerns me greatly. Al Qaeda, Taliban, these people are radical and want to kill you and the Muslims who don't share their radical way. Should we let them go unchecked and let it spill over to North America more than it already has?

I don't know what the solution is but I would like to see the Middle East and Afghanstan become a stable and productive region where the people can live in peace and safety.

But much like Mustangdriver, sometimes I don't know what to think anymore.

Brian....


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BLR, very well put...

I agree wholeheartedly that there is a huge difference between supporting the war, and supporting those that are fighting the war. As a matter of fact I pretty much agree with everything you had to say, well put my friend! :D

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There are heroes, and then there are Jane Fondas. I'll keep the heroes and wish "the poor sod" a happy and full life.

Oh, and a heartfelt "Thank you for your service" to him and those serving at his side.


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Oscarduece, while many people sat out the debate we lost 58,000 young men in Vietnam under LBJ and Nixon, both of whom like Bush/Cheney never fought themselves. We have lost 3000 dead in Iraq. Would you feel a lot better and heroic if we stayed in Iraq long enough to get another 55,000 dead?

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