Restoration of NA-64 Yale 3383 and 3456
Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:39 am
Hello everyone, thought I would share the story and restoration of my NA-64 Yale 3383. Ill try to keep this thread up to date with the progress of the restoration. The restoration and all the pictures are on my website at this link under projects: http://www.legendofaces.com. Here is a brief history of NA-64 3383. I also included a couple pictures off of my website.
64-3037 was built in the North American Aviation Plant in Inglewood, CA as part of a 30-plane addition to the French Contract. Was delivered to RCAF.
September 5, 1940 – It was taken on strength with the RCAF as 3383.
With No. 1 Service Flying Training School at Camp Borden, Ontario dates unknown.
Also with No. 31 Service Flying Training School, Was one of eight Yale’s temporarily transferred to the Royal Navy for a month in March-April 1941.
Also with No. 14 at RCAF Station Aylmer, Ontario, suffered category B damage on August 6,1942.
Converted to wireless trainer, and following hostilities, was flown to No. 6 Service Flying Training School at Brantford, Ontario for disposal
September 25, 1946 - Struck off, to War Assets for sale. Had 2333:20 total time on airframe.
Was in storage at the former British Commonwealth Air Training Plan base near Brantford, Ontario. Originally purchased by Amsco Ltd. of Hamilton, Ontario who again offered it for sale.
North American NA-64-3037 was than purchased by the late Ernie Simmons and became part of his collection that was parked on his farm for decades in Cortland, Ontario.
North American NA-64-3037 was auctioned off by Dan Murray in the “Ernie Simmons Collection” auction on September 3, 1970 to Jack N. Taft.
Was purchased by Patrick J Mihalek on May 23, 2009 from the Jack N. Taft Trust.
64-3037 was built in the North American Aviation Plant in Inglewood, CA as part of a 30-plane addition to the French Contract. Was delivered to RCAF.
September 5, 1940 – It was taken on strength with the RCAF as 3383.
With No. 1 Service Flying Training School at Camp Borden, Ontario dates unknown.
Also with No. 31 Service Flying Training School, Was one of eight Yale’s temporarily transferred to the Royal Navy for a month in March-April 1941.
Also with No. 14 at RCAF Station Aylmer, Ontario, suffered category B damage on August 6,1942.
Converted to wireless trainer, and following hostilities, was flown to No. 6 Service Flying Training School at Brantford, Ontario for disposal
September 25, 1946 - Struck off, to War Assets for sale. Had 2333:20 total time on airframe.
Was in storage at the former British Commonwealth Air Training Plan base near Brantford, Ontario. Originally purchased by Amsco Ltd. of Hamilton, Ontario who again offered it for sale.
North American NA-64-3037 was than purchased by the late Ernie Simmons and became part of his collection that was parked on his farm for decades in Cortland, Ontario.
North American NA-64-3037 was auctioned off by Dan Murray in the “Ernie Simmons Collection” auction on September 3, 1970 to Jack N. Taft.
Was purchased by Patrick J Mihalek on May 23, 2009 from the Jack N. Taft Trust.
Last edited by warbird_patrick on Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:30 am, edited 1 time in total.
Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:37 pm
Congratulations on the purchase of that time capsule! We're looking forward to updates as you go forward.
Scott
Scott
Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:09 pm
Congratulations on the purchase of that time capsule! We're looking forward to updates as you go forward.
Scott
Thanks Scott. Right now I'm in the process of restoring the seats, and all the small parts for them while I'm still traveling around doing other restorations. I just made the new seat support tubes and some of the other 4130 steel parts.
Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:36 pm
Neat find. I always thought a Yale would be a neat bird to have. All the fun of a T-6 without the hassle of retract gear while sipping a but less fuel... Good to see there may be one out there for me some day...
Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:35 pm
Hello Patrick,
Looks like a very nice basis for a head turning restoration.
How is she for primary structure corrosion?
Kindest regards
Saso
Looks like a very nice basis for a head turning restoration.
How is she for primary structure corrosion?
Kindest regards
Saso
Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:14 pm
Just curious, but were a lot of parts between the Yale and T-6 series interchangeable?
Looks like a solid basis for a restoration there. Sounds like it has an interesting history too.
Looks like a solid basis for a restoration there. Sounds like it has an interesting history too.
Sat Jul 11, 2009 5:10 pm
Thats fantastic! Look forward to regular updates on her Progress!
Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:14 pm
Hello Patrick,
Looks like a very nice basis for a head turning restoration.
How is she for primary structure corrosion?
Kindest regards
Saso
Hello Saso,
The overhaul structure is in amazingly good condition, there is one panel on the wing that will need to be replaced, but as for the fuselage, and tail feathers they are all in good condition with no corrosion visible or dents.
Also to the other posters in the thread thanks for all the great comments and support!!!
Patrick
Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:46 pm
kalamazookid wrote:Just curious, but were a lot of parts between the Yale and T-6 series interchangeable?
A few are. On our Yale, we found some of the parts (ie fuel pump, etc) were interchangeable with the Harvard Mk 4, since they are both 24V systems. Won't work for a standard T-6 or Harvard Mk II, though.
In fact, we've been swapping parts back and forth between our Yale and one of our Mk 4's that we're currently overhauling. It give's our C Tech O headaches!
As for airframe parts, the fuselage of the Yale (not the centre wing section, though) from the firewall back is basically identical to the Harvard Mk II, but the controls inside the cockpit are slightly different. The Yale has hand operated flaps, for example. If someone wanted to make an exact replica of a BT-14 using a Yale, technically they could bolt on Harvard/T-6/SNJ outer wings as well as swapping the R-975 Whirlwind for the R-985 Wasp Jr, but that's another story, and I don't think the FAA or Transport Canada would enjoy it either.
Anyway, good luck with 3383 Patrick! Hope to make it out to Brighton one of these days!
Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:40 pm
RCAF Wrote:
That doesn't sound quite right. THe Yale and BT-14 should have the same wing. I also doubt the bolt pattern on the attach angles would match up between the two.
As for airframe parts, the fuselage of the Yale (not the centre wing section, though) from the firewall back is basically identical to the Harvard Mk II, but the controls inside the cockpit are slightly different. The Yale has hand operated flaps, for example. If someone wanted to make an exact replica of a BT-14 using a Yale, technically they could bolt on Harvard/T-6/SNJ outer wings as well as swapping the R-975 Whirlwind for the R-985 Wasp Jr, but that's another story, and I don't think the FAA or Transport Canada would enjoy it either.
That doesn't sound quite right. THe Yale and BT-14 should have the same wing. I also doubt the bolt pattern on the attach angles would match up between the two.
Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:55 pm
Well finally started to make some of the new parts for the pilots seat. All of the casting parts have been stripped and are ready for primer. All most of all the 4130 steel parts are going to have to be replaced. Here are some pictures of the progress.
Original Seat belt release
New Seat Belt Release
All the clean parts ready for primer
Here is a link to all: http://s450.photobucket.com/albums/qq22 ... mview=grid
Original Seat belt release
New Seat Belt Release
All the clean parts ready for primer
Here is a link to all: http://s450.photobucket.com/albums/qq22 ... mview=grid
Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:05 pm
rcaf_100 wrote:[ On our Yale, we found some of the parts (ie fuel pump, etc) were interchangeable with the Harvard Mk 4, since they are both 24V systems. Won't work for a standard T-6 or Harvard Mk II, though.
T-6D, F and G along with SNJ-5, 6 and 7 are 24 volt. Some earlier a/c have been converted.
Harvard Mk II's I have seen as both 12 and 24 volt.
Rich
Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:08 pm
Well going to be pulling her out of the hanger for our local fly in on Saturday, It is at Brighton airport (45G), in Brighton, MI. Everyone is welcome to stop in.
Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:10 pm
Just wanted everyone to know, been on the road that last couple of weeks, Located a bunch of parts that hopefully will be picking up tomorrow.
Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:26 pm
Got the pilots seat all cleaned up ready for paint. Will post pictures soon