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Lockheed P-38L 44-53193, registered as N3005 and painted as 45-3193 "Glamorous Glynes" at Naval Air Station Atlanta in 1978. The airplane crashed later that year on August 1, 1978, tragically killing the owners Peter and Glynes Sherman.


Source: Wikimedia Commons https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... ta_GA1.jpg


Source: Wikimedia Commons https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... ta_GA2.jpg

How much of Glamorous Glynes exists now? Is it mostly paperwork?

Wrong, standard tail number minus first digit of serial and hyphen: "453193"

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All right, Mister Dorfmann, start pullin'!
Pilot: "Flap switch works hard in down position."
Mechanic: "Flap switch checked OK. Pilot needs more P.T." - Flight report, TB-17G 42-102875 (Hobbs AAF)

More details from the Bowling Green, OH Daily Sentinel-Tribune, August 2, 1978:

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All right, Mister Dorfmann, start pullin'!
Pilot: "Flap switch works hard in down position."
Mechanic: "Flap switch checked OK. Pilot needs more P.T." - Flight report, TB-17G 42-102875 (Hobbs AAF)

An NTSB search didn't turn up anything on this accident.

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Sounds like a Vmc tail stall?

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I'm pretty sure this one stopped briefly in Hopkinsville, KY that same year. It was having some engine issues and my dad was in the backyard and called me outside. He heard it flying and recognized the engine sounds. We drove out to the municipal airport and it had just landed. It may have spent the night there. I know there was a short article about it in the next day's local paper (Kentucky New Era) but I didn't save it and can't find mention of it anywhere. I later heard that the plane had crashed, killing a husband and wife.

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Found your article - but that was a different Lightning; P-38M 44-53097, at the time owned by John Stokes:

http://www.warbirdregistry.org/p38regis ... 53097.html


2008 thread on that one with a lot of dead Photobucket images:
http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.o ... p?p=183607

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All right, Mister Dorfmann, start pullin'!
Pilot: "Flap switch works hard in down position."
Mechanic: "Flap switch checked OK. Pilot needs more P.T." - Flight report, TB-17G 42-102875 (Hobbs AAF)

Wow! Thanks, Chris! My google game needs work, clearly! Same with the memory. I remembered the one I saw was a two-seater and then later saw that a two-seater had crashed. I obviously connected those two things and assumed that the one that crashed was the one that I saw.

Appreciate the detective work very much!

Dave

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Note that it was fitted with a modified P-80 nose, as part of the restoration/conversion from the F-5 nose it had previously.

Some more views:
https://flickr.com/photos/151087317@N03/52316216020
https://flickr.com/photos/151087317@N03/52316196639
https://flickr.com/photos/151087317@N03/52316086668

can't see those albums, says they are adult and you must sign in to view them.

I believe the Stokes P-38 went to Doug Champlin, and now is in the museum of flight in seattle. the 2nd seat canopy went to the CAF and was on Scatterbrain Kid II

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Sparse with info I shall readily admit, but it is in the database.
https://www.ntsb.gov/Pages/brief.aspx?ev_id=39595&key=0

Here some older shots of it while as N34993 and CF-NMW.

N34993:
https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/ai ... .jpg?v=v40

CF-NMW:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/edk7/1187 ... 580371993/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/edk7/1187 ... 580371993/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/peden/152 ... Ynr-2NUdcM

And here some more info on the Age of Flight Museum where the 38 spent some time, as well as a little bit about its next location:
https://www.worldmilitariaforum.com/for ... fish-p-38/

T J

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