USS Sable & Wolverine SNJ's ...

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7819

I've been given a mission. If I choose to accept it! (I have).
A WIX members SNJ is closing in on completion and needs paint.
The chosen scheme will be one of the SNJ's used for US Navy Great Lakes training during the war.
My dad was one of the pilots in training on the lakes before being shipped out to the fleet carriers in the PTO.

Details of the instructions are to find some good detailed photos of SNJ's used on the training carriers.
I have several b&w photos that I will post soon, but I'm on the hunt for color photos or video.

If anyone is interested in volunteering for this very difficult and possibly dangerous mission, please take one step forward.

The link below is my start so far. Some great color clips of air operations on the training carriers on lake Michigan.

https://www.shutterstock.com/video/search/uss-wolverine

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7819

Here's two interesting clips.

USN Carrier Qualification Training Unit on Lake Michigan (ca. 1943)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4rwE1uV5DU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5BhNqLgeAc

Dan K · **Posted:** Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:31 pm

Not exactly what one would call a detailed photo...

And yes, it is of a model: Part of Bill Waldorf's amazing 1/72 scale model of the USS Wolverine.

But if the owner is still considering markings, I think the national insignia with red surround is one of the more attractive of the Carrier Qual SNJ schemes.

file:///home/chronos/u-1d094c03e820f1c8993e92ded451b5abc217d169/MyFiles/Downloads/USS%20Wolverine.mhtml

https://www.carrierbuilders.net/element ... php?id=555

(It's too late and I'm too tired to edit. Just enlarge the pics at the 2nd link and you'll find the SNJ scheme...g'nite all!)

seabee1526 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:18 pm **Posts:** 459

Do you have color shots of NAS Glenview? They all flew out from there.

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7819

Yes, I’m looking through my Glenview files As well.

Tulio · **Joined:** Mon May 03, 2004 1:05 am **Posts:** 3236

Good morning, Mark!

Very likely, you already have these images.

I googled images for great lakes aircraft carriers, and these three SNJ pictures were amongst other aircraft photos.

I tried to enlarge the images, but my telephone is limited in that regard.

Saludos,

Tulio

M Moore · **Joined:** Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:45 am **Posts:** 4

Good luck with that paint scheme. That'll look really slick.

When researching my own SNJ, I often followed tangents down rabbit holes. One of these was the carrier use during the War. (Mine was used for FCLP after the War.) I was intrigued by the squadron "patch" painted on the fuselage that is shown on some of the film footage. I think I have a copy of it, but it'll require some digging. I don't have the time for that today, but will try to get to it in the next couple of days.

Thanks for sharing the Shutterstock link. I'm unfamiliar with that site. Am I looking at the information there correctly? If I wanted to save a copy of any of those sub-two minute videos for my own records, it'll cost me $79 a piece? Ouch!

Thomas_Mac · **Posted:** Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:20 am

M Moore wrote:

If I wanted to save a copy of any of those sub-two minute videos for my own records, it'll cost me $79 a piece? Ouch!

Apparently....you can right click on the video and "open video in new tab" then click on the three vertical dots in the lower right hand corner and can download the clip.

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7819

Thx so far all .....

SNJ-3 Texans on the flight deck of the USS Wolverine (IX-64) while underway in Lake Michigan 1942.

An SNJ-3 Texan races along for takeoff on the flight deck of the USS Wolverine (IX-64) while underway in Lake Michigan.

SNJ-3C Texan has a mishap on the deck of the USS Wolverine (IX-64) while underway in Lake Michigan.

mike furline · **Joined:** Wed May 05, 2004 3:45 pm **Posts:** 2635

https://www.flickr.com/photos/55544262@ ... npm-bVV1EK

Double National Insignia
https://www.flickr.com/photos/warhistor ... s-2gdE5Nn/

http://www.scharch.org/Ed_Scharch/usn-a ... texan.html

jamesintucson · **Joined:** Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:42 am **Posts:** 546

There is also a book on the Sable and Wolverine. No color that I recall but it does have T-6 photos.

https://www.amazon.com/Michigans-Aircra ... B0093X45E2

Tulio · **Joined:** Mon May 03, 2004 1:05 am **Posts:** 3236

These, from Dan Hagedorn's book "North Ameeican's T-6" a definitive history of the world's most famous trainer.

Post-war markings in some of them.

Highly likely you already have them.

Saludos,

Tulio

Tulio · **Joined:** Mon May 03, 2004 1:05 am **Posts:** 3236

Laat image

JohnB · **Posted:** Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:26 pm

I love the Hagedorn book and I enjoy the Lake Michigan carrier book...and yes, there is no color in it.

Tulio · **Joined:** Mon May 03, 2004 1:05 am **Posts:** 3236

John, another WIXer, Canadian Doug MacPhail, has also published a must have book on the subject, covering of course, the Harvards.

I have 5 or 6 books on the T-6, one by [EDITED] ( IIRC a Mr. ? Smith.) Peter C. Smith: North American T-6
SNJ, Harvard and Wirraway.j

There is one in the T-6s in Latin América, another "must have" by Dan Hagedorn.

Just finished looking at the Squadron Signal book on the T-6, but did not find anything to share for the purposes of this thread.

Found out, that I have an extra copy on the Hagedorn's book on the T-6, whose cover photo appeared on one of my earlier postings.

Saludos!

Tulio

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