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When Hollywood Ruled The Skies - Volumes 1 through 4 by Bruce Oriss


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:09 pm 
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I went out to the Udvar-Hazy Center this morning and was surprised once again by new stuff.

This time I got to see their Dornier Do-335 for the first time, and I got some pictures of the He-219 fuselage that I posted about a few months ago.

They've rearranged some of the aircraft, and the German stuff is now clustered together.

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Do-335 (Magnificent!)

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He-219 (They've only done the fuselage so far.)

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Ar-234

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Fw-190 (Of course it's gorgeous, but I kind of wish they'd bring their Me-262 out and place it here next to the Ar-234. They belong together.)

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Another view of the new "Luftwaffe Alley"

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Great pics! Thanks for posting them.


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Very nice! They have added alot since I was there 2 years ago for the opening. I cant wait to see the He 219 all back together again!

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Great pictures! I wish the NASM would update their web site with new pictures of the aircraft as displayed. The picture they have of the P-38 is old stock file photo (and not even of the actual aircraft). The picture of the Winnie Mae is ancient!. I haven't seen one picture of the Winnie Mae in the new museum yet (this plane belongs in the milestones of flight gallery downtown - in my opinion). :)


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Fantastic pictures of a fantastic collection! Now I have a question that I don't think eaven the WIX team can help me with!!!!!.
How can I persuade the wife to let me go!!!! :(

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cking...Here's your Christmas present.

Virgin Atlantic is running a $125 one-way fare London to Boston and its an easy shuttle ride from Beantown to DC. :wink:

If you get this for Christmas, let me know (I live near Beantown).

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A great thing about the Udvar-Hazy facility is that it's not necessary to go near DC. The museum is adjacent to Dulles Airport in N. Virginia. (In fact, it's built on land owned by the airport.) No DC crap!

You could fly into Dulles and grab a cab. I'm guessing a few bucks only for the fare. I've seen people doing it while on a layover.

I was really jazzed about the German stuff, but I took a few pictures of some other stuff, too.

Lysander, P-40, F4U

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F4U alone

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"George" ("Enola Gay" in background)

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Kingfisher

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"Irving"

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P-40

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Ohka

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What else do ya got? :roll: Keep um comming!

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I've got a few more decent shots, still on the camera. I'll load them tonight.


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Round 2: very nice! The Lysander looks great!

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The NASM does receive alot of criticism (sometimes justified) here on the WIX over not restoring for display the B-17 "Swoose", the B-25, the P-61, the Avenger, the Mosquito etc., etc., etc. but I must say they have done a very good job in just 2 years placing aircraft on display at Udvar Hazy. My 2 cents worth.

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I say, don't worry about restoring them (for the time being). Just assemble them and display them in their current state (no matter how bad). When they can be put into restoration, remove them one at a time from display at that point. This allows the older generation to see the planes of their time (i.e. the Swoose) before it's to late. It should also alleviate storage space issues (store them on display). I don't need the Swoose fully restored to appreciate it. Just my opinion......


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Richard W., Is the P-61 Black Widow on display yet? Someone here on the WIX said recently it was soon to go on display.

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Pat- No the P-61 isn't on display, yet. I'm not certain where they'll put it, as there doesn't seem to be enough room on the floor. I suppose they might hang it from the ceiling, which might be cool with the gear up and the right angle.

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You make a good point, APG85.

I remember seeing many of these aircraft in 1980 when I toured the Silver Hill restoration facility. They were mostly in pieces, spread out on the floor, but what a thrill it was to to see them in any condition.

I recall standing up in the Enola Gay's bomb bay, and the "Swoose" was outside for some reason exposed to the elements (might have been in transit from building to building?)

I've got some good slides of it all that I've been meaning to have digitized so I can share them.


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The Do.335 is my favourite Axis aircraft but seening it next to the Ar.234, I never realised just how big she is!

When the wings are attached to the He-219, my second favourite while then be on full display!

Nice pictures!

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